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    VirusChris's Avatar
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    Chris Corona
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    Malboro
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Raelen View Post
    While I got extraordinarily lucky with my drops (managed to get 12 in 2 days), I'd love to see some sort of system where the drop rate increased just a tiny bit each time you ran the dungeon so that we don't end up with people having to spam AV 47 times etc. I think it'd be fair to guarantee the drop at a certain point rather than leaving everything up to RNG.
    I agree! Having the drop rate increase little by little each time you failed to get said items from the dungeon would make it more tolerable. I wonder why no one has done this yet.
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    Alberel's Avatar
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by VirusChris View Post
    I agree! Having the drop rate increase little by little each time you failed to get said items from the dungeon would make it more tolerable. I wonder why no one has done this yet.
    It's called 'smart RNG' and Blizzard has already adopted it in Diablo 3. I fully agree that FFXIV could really use something like it...
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    W'fharl Tia
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100
    I finished my Sasuke's Blades yesterday, finally, and the only reason it took so long was because Halatali decided to be a stubborn holdout for another 6 hours after I got all my other items. Not going to do one of these again.

    In principle, the "high" drop rate compared to Atmas, combined with the mathematical improbability of a long unbroken sequence of the same result, is intended to create a moderate but not intolerable grind. The reality, though, is that the more players undertaking the quest, the larger the pool in which a statistical anomaly can emerge. Of course, all this only applies to a truly random system.

    Computers are, by their very nature, incapable of spontaneous action, and thus incapable of truly "random" behavior. "Random" number generation is algorithmic in nature, which means patterns will always inevitably emerge in time. Applied to a massively multi-user system, patterns can become apparent in a very short amount of time. The rest goes without saying.
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    Final Heaven
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    Lamia
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    Summoner Lv 90
    A ten percent drop on a 40 min dungeon run like aurum vale is cringe worthy imo. I was hoping I'd get mine after the first few runs, but nope. It seems like it insta drops after the easiest dungeons like bray hm, haukke hm, ak, but the most time consuming dungeons its laf. Weeks more of grinding at the now final step to get that sub par relic. Please look forward to it!
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    Last edited by Its_Elodie; 02-13-2015 at 04:58 AM.

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    Shin Kazuya
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    Leviathan
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    Lancer Lv 34
    I recently started playing FF14 when ninja first came out and I really enjoyed the game since. I decided to go through the entire zodiac quest and currently up to the Final Zodiac quest currently released. I would be find with it but the RNG as not been kind to me to say the least. I would not take it so hard if there was an increase chance of the item dropping every time I do the dungeon, even a 5% chance increase every time so I would not have to do Hullbreaker Isle 40 times and end up with nothing as that is quite is discouraging. Imagine that happening for every dungeon is quite scary lmao.
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    Yolanda Freebush
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    Malboro
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    I am just starting to do the HM dungeons doing the books for Animus. Maybe I better stick to using the PF for my first runs, may encounter alot of rage.
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    FranSeara's Avatar
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    Fran Seara
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    Ultros
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Just finsihed my 3rd Nexus weapon and I'll complete a 3rd Zodica weapon with a drop from my last DF I need. All in all I"d say the mosts DFs were good to me. I had two give me a hard time. I waited for the reset on Tuesdays to retry Hullbreaker and Temple of Corn hm (lol) These were the two that give me a hard time. I went 0 for 5 on each. With the reset I went 1 for 2 on Hullbreaker and 1 for 1 on Temple of Corn. "My friedns say I might just be lucky"
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    Mayong Mistmoore
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    It's all just luck. On third weapon now. I've had experiences where I literally got 7 drops in a row 1/1, I've also gone 5 days with nothing. Just last night, I had a friend who got his second drop from DD (as in finished the quest, and started it again) and I still haven't gotten my DD drop from when I ran with him the first time around. It sucks, yes, but if they decided to do non rng, it could be worse. They could for example, go the FFXI route, and require you to gather thousands of drop items from an instance with a daily lockout, or maybe make the drop at the end of the dungeon guaranteed, but require, say, 10 of each drop (160 dungeon runs in total).

    I, honestly, still think that this is the quickest, easiest step in the line(counting each step when it was first added). Even with terrible luck, it's still only like, 2 weeks of work for a casual player. Still less time than it takes most players to get an encrypted tomestone for an inferior ironworks weapon.
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    I'shtola Maqa
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    I would just rather not say my amount of runs. Oh the flipside i was going into this knowing that i would have just as bad of RNG as atmas were before all the drop rate increases.
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