Materia and the Past/Future

[Falcus]

the idea of having augment slots in equipment again is diffidently something that i would like to see again.. I loved the system in FFVII something similar to this with the current shard/crystal materia item already in place like being able to craft MATERIA from shards and crystals and so on and so on.. just an idea

Would be pretty cool if you could turn shards/crystals/clusters into materia.
Just something like Fire Shards = slight boost to fire resistance if put on to armour, or slight elemental damage if put on a weapon, kinda like the elemental materia in FFVII which did the same thing depending on what materia was linked with it.
And crystals would add a higher amount.

So something like: (All numbers are examples, nothing more)
Fire Shards = +5% Fire Resistance/Attack
Fire Crystal = +10% Fire Resistance/Attack
Fire Cluster = +15% Fire Resistance/Attack

I think it would be pretty nice if you could add different elements to your regular attacks and defences.

[elreed]

In my op. i think they'll take the path that WoW did with the jewerly that you attached on gear, they'll give a set of slots in each piece to buff status only, and i dont see any trouble boosting abbilities, but they are more likely to improve only stats on the begining, and just guessing here maybe high quality gear will include an extra slot maybe.

Thats one of the few things that was positive in that game and the glyphs, you could customize your class as you wished depending on your playstyle, and i know that FFVII had it before but WoW used that in MMO, so thats why i refer to that game in materia use.

[Cairdeas]

Materia will most likely only give stats and traits

It might be how we get traits in the first place. Right now there are no "Traits" that just hide out in the background of your character showing up when you need it (Like double attack, holy aura etc.)

[Arcell]

To defuse the "OMFG NOT WoW!" bits, to be fair WoW didn't do a gem/slot system first. They may have been one of the first MMOs to do it but hardly anything about the game was created specifically for WoW.

Also just to clarify it's been stated that you will be able to slot One piece of materia into each piece of equipment with 100% success. They've also been hinting at there being a way to slot more than one but it would have some kind of failure rate/negative effect.

Also Cairdeas, I think a better term would be passive materia effects as we already use the term Traits for things like Out of Sight, Prime Conditioning, etc... Just to avoid confusion mainly.

[Cairdeas]

To defuse the "OMFG NOT WoW!" bits, to be fair WoW didn't do a gem/slot system first. They may have been one of the first MMOs to do it but hardly anything about the game was created specifically for WoW.

Also just to clarify it's been stated that you will be able to slot One piece of materia into each piece of equipment with 100% success. They've also been hinting at there being a way to slot more than one but it would have some kind of failure rate/negative effect.

Also Cairdeas, I think a better term would be passive materia effects as we already use the term Traits for things like Out of Sight, Prime Conditioning, etc... Just to avoid confusion mainly.

Yeah but those things dont really act like traits they just modify stats :/

[Arcell]

Yeah but those things dont really act like traits they just modify stats :/

Well yes and no. Out of Sight reduces Enmity generated by actions, Intimidation does the opposite. Prime Conditioning increases healing effects on you by 10%. I'm not talking about the stat allocation switching traits like Mind over Matter.

[Estellios]

The Evolith stuff sounded AWESOME on paper, and then it was released....

It was extremely restrictive, and you needed to level an entirely new craft that was very time consuming. The concept made it sound that you could put evolith into all your gear, but it was only specific items and they could only have specific things attached to them. They had the "amazing" idea of making the gear made specifically for evolith be crafted from HNM materials and the color-changing/slot-changing mechanics required tough NM kills. After all that, most stuff you could put on the gear was extremely situational, like someone had mentioned. "Magic attack bonus vs. Dragons" only helps against so many things and you would need to purge the evolith, get a new one (which probably required a NM kill), and insert it in order to change.

Materia being added this early and applicable to all gear, as well as having "always on" general bonuses will mean that it will see a lot more use.

[AJ_Anyia]

The Evolith stuff sounded AWESOME on paper, and then it was released....

It was extremely restrictive, and you needed to level an entirely new craft that was very time consuming. The concept made it sound that you could put evolith into all your gear, but it was only specific items and they could only have specific things attached to them. They had the "amazing" idea of making the gear made specifically for evolith be crafted from HNM materials and the color-changing/slot-changing mechanics required tough NM kills. After all that, most stuff you could put on the gear was extremely situational, like someone had mentioned. "Magic attack bonus vs. Dragons" only helps against so many things and you would need to purge the evolith, get a new one (which probably required a NM kill), and insert it in order to change.

Materia being added this early and applicable to all gear, as well as having "always on" general bonuses will mean that it will see a lot more use.

Here's to hope that it's for all gear that's available to the world, because when evoliths were first introduced before they were released to the public a good number of people thought that they would be able to slot them to any piece of gear/weapon and compared them to materia of FF VII. Then they were released, and much QQ'ing ensued. As it is, all we have right now is speculation and my only hope is that while it shares the slotting properties and name of the FF VII items, I pray that that is where their similarities end. I really do, because the last thing I want to see is something old drudged up and reused. It was an interesting system, but I'd prefer seeing new and innovative instead of old stuff.

[Darrkness]

i liked how in VII you got different stat bonuses per level depending on what materia you had on you at the time and the fact that the materia lvld as the character who was using it did.. separate xp numbers and everything.. now i can see how having the materia multiply once it reached max level can be a bit of a stretch for an mmo so i won't be disappointed if they ignore that aspect but a balanced system taking traits from all materia/gem equipment slot concepts would be a nice addition here.. i mean the examples are out there just need to get a nice database with pros and cons to each system to devise a perfect or close to perfect system.. =)

[weeble]

like others said it just sounds like a slot/gem system to me, like warhammer talismans. as to getting some really rare types in future i'd love to see this, rare stats, 1% drop rate on a completly new move ..stuff like this heck yeah, but the way this game is dumbing down for the casuals i don't see it happening.

this game is turning tree hugging hippy on us, we all gonna get everything in game we want. and we'll need to be stoned out our minds to be delusional enough to enjoy it.