SE wildly irresponsible with hunt reward implementation yet again

[Deculture]

All this complaining about Guildworks reminds me of FFXIV App and its Radar plugin, which is still working fine to this day. Much like FFXIVApp, Guildworks has been around for a while now and is just now catching attention because of hunts (just like FFXIVApp).

I will be very surprised if SE is able to patch or even bans anyone for using it unless that person is blatantly bragging about it in-game, much like how no one ever gets banned for using ACT unless they start harassing people about their DPS numbers.

[Ooshima]

Tl;dr. SE tries to balance casual and hardcore players using Hunts. But fails to fix the root of the issue, which is Guildworks.

Before Guildworks for hunts even existed, we are already doing similar tracking on places such as google docs etc. How does Guildwork become the root of the issue?

[Fynlar]

Guildwork being against ToS is not the issue. If it didn't exist, a different means of tracking hunts would be used (and some still are used), several of which are not against ToS in any way and are merely players sharing information. It's just one of the easier and trusted ways of going about it, which is why it gets used.

When you have predictable events in a game that everyone wants to take part in, that's just the sort of thing that happens.

[Ramen]

Guildwork is "one of" the problem +1

I have some Guildwork free LS. Sometimes, when I find the A rank, usually melt who is @ east shroud where everyone hates to go there, I will announce @ my Guildwork free LS. Then, I can wait up to 5-10 mins for ppl to gather... no one will find the melt. Until I announced the location @ "contaminated" LS... then bunch shouts will come up and chaos came...

people can get the location of the target so easily that's why they DON"T CARE. They don't care people blist them, they don't care how hard to find this mob, they don't care there might be ppl's friends coming (they don't even care about friends).

[lackofwords]

Yeah, I agree it sucks with this rush, but at the same time it is somewhat fun.

As long as the trend continues with having the upgrade material for current highest ilvl items appear up in hunts, carbontwine and carboncoat.
Then there will always be an early influx of people doing hunts no matter what.

It isn't even about the tomes as you could see, the weekly (poetics) tome drops is still next to nil. And I highly doubt a lot of people are actually doing it for the uncapped (soldiery) tomes, even though that was increased in 2.5 though it wasn't mentioned.

Sure, the extra soldiery tomes increase for A ranks from 20 to 30 might help people progress their alexandrites a little bit faster, but overall, I don't think they are gathering for that alone...

[Xellos2099]

In term of sharing information, TS is no different from GW. GW work better because it doesn't require annoying ts voice all speaking at once, which is SUPER ANNOYING. Both are the same, someone find the mob, report it, people go to mob and kill it. GW system itself does nothing without people feeding it data, same as ts.

[SendohJin]

Except S-E could also put Carbontwine or other rewards equivalent to left-side i130 into:

-World of Darkness
-The "Primal Focus" weekly-style CT gauntlet quest
-any recent Primal encounter, which while difficult, are not as difficult as FCOB

By not spreading out the types of content players are 'motivated' to do, and funneling everything into hunts, you get irresponsible overpopulation.

i still have no idea why they don't also let you buy Carbontwine and coats with Wolf Marks.

[Nekodar]

i still have no idea why they don't also let you buy Carbontwine and coats with Wolf Marks.

Maybe because those are not for PvP gear upgrades, where Wolf Marks is for/from PvP.
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Twine/Coat is not the only reason to do hunts.
Getting Sand/Oil/Alexandrite twice as fast as before is another reason.
The only real problem is that you can actually buy the unstained logs with allied seals right away instead of having that be added in a later patch.

[Chiramu]

People on Tonberry wait somewhat, I don't particularly follow hunts but every time I have run to fight a mark with my BF we can produce enough damage/enmity to receive full participation.

OP, maybe you could try some A ranks in the morning? It is SUPER hard finding a lot of people to do an A rank in the morning sometimes.

[Blacksmith_Tony]

The irony of this all is that just a week ago, these fights actually took a bit of time, and it was nice and friendly, if a bit slow. People waiting for others to show up.

Making it where the Soldiery is so great that people don't have to step foot in a dungeon again, as well as make it where people can reach ilvl 130 by avoiding all other content within the game, and SHABAM! Lord of the Flies unfolds with grown men playing cat girls and all sorts of non-hilarity that ensues in the waking carnage. I've witnessed people threatening to GM for people pulling "early", full on harrassment, and other childish things that would have a GM handing out suspensions to at least a few people each pull.

At this rate, it's gonna be a waiting game for either SE to "fix" things, people unsub since patch is old, or wait for the Dick Dastardly types to get their free ilvl 130 and ruin some other part of the community. Maybe all three, depending on how lethargic the devs are over Heavensward crunch.