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  1. #51
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    MageBlack's Avatar
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    Sora Burakku
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    Zalera
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    -snip-
    I totally get what you are saying. I wasnt trying to poo-poo any of the suggestions in this thread, i do think they are all good ones. I was just trying to understand why it seems like some people get 20+ spams a day while I get next to nothing. I know at one point though RMT was harvesting names straight out of the lodestone because it would let them know when people logged in. Maybe its because I don't respond to them or add any as friends. You stated you did once out of curiosity. It could be any sort of response like that flaggs your account as active so they will be more persistent? I know thats how spam email works, you open it or click a link out of curiosity, boom, you are hooped. I have always made it a point of not accepting a single friend request form someone i did not have prior interactions with.

    I do hope they can help you guys out though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Maybe there's an upside after all to the difficulty of creating new characters on Balmung. The gil-sellers must have as much trouble as everyone else creating characters there, but they're dependent on repeatedly creating lots of characters. Must be pretty hard to do on the really crowded servers.
    You know what, this actually makes a lot of sense. I'll have to see how many other people on the heavily restricted servers have my luck.
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  2. #52
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    Nyalia's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Neri Feralheart
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    I'm pretty sure that denying a friend request is just as noticeable as accepting it, and you can't blacklist someone before denying their friend request.
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  3. #53
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    Slirith's Avatar
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    Astarotte Niuhali
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Easy way to stop it but it'd never be done.


    Make gil untradable
    Make MB completely anonymous(no seeing retainer names)
    Make the allagan pieces untradable

    Only source of trade would be the MB. Would it be worth it? Sure, to many players but not worth it to many more just to combat RMT.
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  4. #54
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    SCUBA_Instr's Avatar
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    Gridiania, Eorzea
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    Anna Streeter
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 70
    Hi MageBlack,

    You're cordially invited to the Adamantoise server.

    As of about 2 hours ago, I was receiving about 2 / tell spams per minute.
    RMT industries are engaging in saturating spamming of our server.

    A quick look at the Search Player tab, with search argument
    set to Level 1, the spammer list becomes painfully obvious

    Typically, Level 1 GLD, ARC and Lancers with the familiar
    nonsense names appear. Level 1 Pugilists, with similiar nonsense names
    are the ones who never leave the moogle mail point, except now
    they do it invisible or down in the floor. Each time you refresh
    the Player Search (level 1) a slightly different set of spam bots
    appear. Tonight, RMT is maintaining a an army of level 1 spam bots.

    As soon as I remove the Busy flag, to join party, etc. a flood of spam
    fills the chat box. It goes on and on and on, nonstop. Come see
    for yourself.
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  5. #55
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    SCUBA_Instr's Avatar
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    Anna Streeter
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 70

    A New Low from the Bot Owners

    Hello,
    A New Low from the real money trader criminals.

    /Tell chat spam bots are getting personal now.


    Some RMT spam bot owners are injecting victim's names into the
    spam message. I just receive one, addressing me, by my
    character name. No doubt the spambot softare is now retrieving
    the names (not all are doing this yet) and injecting the those names
    into their /tell chat harassment.

    I forwarded a copy to the game masters under "Report Harassment."
    Hours later, a quick check of the Search Players tab (for level 1)
    revealed that the "getting personal" spam bot is still active.

    I would post that message right here, save it would become a TOS violation if I did.

    May I recommend, that the Square Enix staff talk to the CCP Software
    Security staff? CCP seems to be ahead of the gaming industry for protecting
    their servers and networks.
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  6. #56
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    Sora Burakku
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SCUBA_Instr View Post
    Hi MageBlack,

    -Snip-

    It goes on and on and on, nonstop. Come see
    for yourself.
    I do believe you. I do know it happens. As I mentioned earlier its one of those cases that SE puts up 5 new ways to block them, they find 8 new ways around them. SE is working on it as I'm sure they are just as upset about it as everyone here is. I was only trying to figure out why there was such a difference between myself and others posting here with the frequency of RMT messages. i was not trying to discredit anyone's complaints or make light of their issues, sorry if I came across that way. I think I have found my answer at the top of the page.

    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Maybe there's an upside after all to the difficulty of creating new characters on Balmung. The gil-sellers must have as much trouble as everyone else creating characters there, but they're dependent on repeatedly creating lots of characters. Must be pretty hard to do on the really crowded servers.
    Regardless, I'm pretty sure SE is aware there is an issue and they are actively working towards correcting it. That is evident by the messages on lodestone they post every so often about how many accounts were banned. Banning an account or removing a player is a temporary solution. What they are trying to do is preventative measures, stop them before they start. Identify the accounts and block them before they can get a foothold.

    I wish SE the best of luck in their war on RMT's for their sake and ours.
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  7. #57
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    There should be an option to receive tells from friends only. That would stop it for me at least.
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  8. #58
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    SCUBA_Instr's Avatar
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    Character
    Anna Streeter
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 70
    Upon reporting the "getting personal" spambot, I had a positive in-game
    conversation with a GM. I learned the best way to report spammers. Please allow me
    to share this:

    Contact Us [tab] --> Report Harassment
    You can word the title line as you see fit. Ex: Being harassed by another player.
    The body should be structured:

    Player Name <- Spammer name.
    World Name
    Date and Time <-Include time zone
    What the player said. <---- Copy paste offender's spam message.

    Ex:

    Tretfretrere Dsdsdsdsddd
    Balmung
    Jan 28, 2014 10:42 AM PST

    Tretfretrere Dsdsdsdsddd>> WWW._ _ _ _ _ .COM -- Life is good a . _ _ _Game Gil> 1000K Gil = 3 USD. Buy now will get 6% bonus. -- WWW._ _ _ _ _ _.COM --

    67688

    Date and time are critical toward helping
    the gamemaster to mitigate the offender.
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  9. #59
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    Player Ex
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 36

    Kill RMT

    Ok take a lesson from CCP Games. Introduce a legal way to buy Gil....... RMTs die out practically overnight.

    The method is to allow players to buy a tradeable item from Square. Said item is sellable and only obtainable by purchase. The value of the item is determined by the players and therefore controlled.

    With a safe, legal way to buy gil I see no reason why spam bots would be profitable any longer.
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  10. #60
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    Vievving Cutscenes
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    Famfrit
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    i dont hate bots i hate ppl that need to cheat buying gils from them and it seen like ppl dont stop buying gils cus bots are multiplying every second they making a lot of money from lazy players. why i am in mor dhona and bots still harassing me there when they dont discover maps. nobody besides bots uses search and they can just go there and view everybody in every single map. why dont remove the sending gil option from mail? why somebody that is not my friend can send me private msgs (tells) my blacklist is full i have to unblock a bot to block another bot, cant even unlock all at once and have a lot blocked bots displaying the same name (deleted) while they still occupying room in blacklist. have 3 friends bots request sittinng on a corner of my screen. i do dungs, log in out and they still there. im so paranoid i always try to block anybody sending shouts cus bots always there. we can block 200 bots in less than a week so it means we gonna have to send 200 reports weekly
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