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    Hik0's Avatar
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    Seijuro Hiko
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    Quote Originally Posted by FranSeara View Post
    Ok if any of you Great bard players can prove you get the FULL 15% Dex increase for hawks's eye then do so. I dont think you can prove it. If what you are saying was true I'd could easily do 700-800 dps some time. We ALL know thats not true. Hawk's eye has diminishing returns has you level, its great at low not so great at higher levels. You dont really get 15% dex in real damgae numbers guys, just try and see for yourself. You will not see a 15% overall damage increase, sorry charlie.
    nobody said it is a plain 15% DPS boost but it's still a DPS boost.
    no matter if it's end up being only 2% DPS boost, the one using it do 2% more than the one who doesn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZhycranaDranix View Post
    Am I the only one that noticed OP said on normal heals , he's hitting 2K at the lowest on physick what are you like ilvl160?
    fighting Ex/coil with max echo?
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    Last edited by Hik0; 01-25-2015 at 09:30 PM.

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    Temisu Namisu
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    Quote Originally Posted by FranSeara View Post
    Ok if any of you Great bard players can prove you get the FULL 15% Dex increase for hawks's eye then do so. I dont think you can prove it. If what you are saying was true I'd could easily do 700-800 dps some time. We ALL know thats not true. Hawk's eye has diminishing returns has you level, its great at low not so great at higher levels. You dont really get 15% dex in real damgae numbers guys, just try and see for yourself. You will not see a 15% overall damage increase, sorry charlie.
    Hawk's Eye always gives a FULL 15% extra DEX. That's what the skills does. If you have 100, you now have 115. If you have 500, you now have 575. In both cases, it's a 15% increase in DEX for that time. It would be a different story if Hawk's Eye's DEX boost was capped like how food or potions are.

    I don't know of anyone who thinks that any % of DEX is worth the same % in damage output. But you will get the same damage output with 500 DEX + Hawk's Eye as you would with 575 DEX without Hawk's Eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themis View Post
    Hawk's Eye always gives a FULL 15% extra DEX. That's what the skills does. If you have 100, you now have 115. If you have 500, you now have 575. In both cases, it's a 15% increase in DEX for that time. It would be a different story if Hawk's Eye's DEX boost was capped like how food or potions are.

    I don't know of anyone who thinks that any % of DEX is worth the same % in damage output. But you will get the same damage output with 500 DEX + Hawk's Eye as you would with 575 DEX without Hawk's Eye.
    Completly disagree, thats not how it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FranSeara View Post
    Completly disagree, thats not how it works.
    If you go check your character stats before and after you use Hawk Eye you will see that is how it works, it will raise 15% dex. Also you can test it out by hitting the dummy with Hawk Eye on and off to see the difference in damage, which probably around 11-12% increase in damage.

    The biggest thing about Hawk Eye is that it always line it up with Barrage and B4B if you delay B4B for couple seconds.

    Hawk Eye is the probably the strongest buff for bards based on the duration and the time it available.

    Try testing it again to be sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poy View Post
    If you go check your character stats before and after you use Hawk Eye you will see that is how it works, it will raise 15% dex. Also you can test it out by hitting the dummy with Hawk Eye on and off to see the difference in damage, which probably around 11-12% increase in damage.

    The biggest thing about Hawk Eye is that it always line it up with Barrage and B4B if you delay B4B for couple seconds.

    Hawk Eye is the probably the strongest buff for bards based on the duration and the time it available.

    Try testing it again to be sure
    Thanks Poy. After using Hawk's eye, Nothing happens no stat change. 0 Now, I know once upon, a time I could see my stat change but that was a long time ago. I'm not sure how Hawk eye works at highter item levels. This is a question only the devs can anwer. Thank you for your time. Good day.
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    Last edited by FranSeara; 02-27-2015 at 06:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FranSeara View Post
    Completly disagree, thats not how it works.
    You're my favorite super hero.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FranSeara View Post
    Completly disagree, thats not how it works.
    And once again: I'm sorry you suck at math.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FranSeara View Post
    Completly disagree, thats not how it works.
    Please enlighten us to what you believe happens when Hawk's Eye is used, you've read the tooltip and obviously have some idea that it does something else. I'm genuinely curious.

    It's not even a matter of opinion at this point :P I'm so glad this was revived.

    PSA:
    Basic math skills are important kids. If you also struggle with concepts like percentages I highly suggest watching some math courses at khan academy or some other useful educational site.
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    Kakashi Hatake
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    Please Stop Using Macros for your DPS Abilities

    @ OP : Please stop using Macros with your dps abilities, it severely degrades how quickly you can pump out the damage due to the built-in delay.

    If you must macro, buffs only please - though getting to learn to press ALL the buttons is good practice for dps.
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