YES to this, if the battle speed is untouched and mobs are overhauled to be more worthy, well thats a good option, but i like to use everything i can not to be restricted to be even anxious for not being able to use one single weapon skill in the fight.I always thought of XI like this, the actual battle system was not the greatest part about it...it was also the mobs. See as a rdm most of my job was casting paralyze and slow then a dia or a bio (because we were trusted to know that these override, they do stack actually, if you casted a bio let it run, and then cast a dia, once the bio runs out the dia would still be there, so it was an "override" lets say). If I was fighting a various dragon for a quest (companion or drg quest lets say), you would gravity or bind the mob and then nuke away, why? because the mob was vicious up close. They have no intention of really changing the mobs in this game, a duck is a duck is a duck right khal (love hick sayings, i'm from the west coast), well in this game the mobs are just lame, and they aren't willing to change the mobs in order to make the battle system work.
tldr version: since day once, mobs have been to week, and they haven't ever thought "let us beef up mobs and take away ridiculous attacks they have so that battles will last longer and people cant get a true taste of our battle system". All the spells we need are there, but the mobs don't last quick enough to typically use them.
example: most mobs perish within 30 secs, fight an nm or a peiste or some sort of high level mob and you can actually use most of your abilities, and the battle sytem then seems fun or even great sometimes. The problem is the mobs that take a long time to kill aren't efficient ways of doing anything usually so its just a "masochist" who goes and says "i'm gonna fight this tough because its more fun" If most mobs lasted longer and gave more sp I think most people wouldn't even be complaining about the battle system.
lol thanks for this
Enjoyed the read of the first post and I feel exactly the same about every issue he brought up. While I'd love to stick to the FF online adventures I simply cannot do it until most of these things are altered. Oh well, anyway, nice post Khal.
Even as a casual player now, I do kind of enjoy this aspect of the game.Everyone is going to have to level EVERY job in order to ever be a GOOD one.
Looking at the ability list, I will say "Hey, that would be a cool ability for my XX class", so I will go and rank it up. There is progression when you rank up a different class and get to improve your old one. You can even think of it as a FFXI Merit System +3.
And you are generalizing the status quo too much. If you make a proper poll, I believe you'll find the populace split down the middle. But even if it is skewed towards your point (or the other), do know that people don't usually post on forums if they don't have anything to complain, so any polls on forums aren't that accurate either.
Chione and I are almost totally against your suggestions for one. This is not to say however the game doesn't need improvements.
Last edited by tymora; 08-23-2011 at 02:30 AM.
There IS a reason we play this instead of ffxi .. just saying. If you think ffxi is perfect, then play that, its still being updated. Unntill then, original ideas please. No im not one of those saying "leave the game as it is" im saying: try, fail, then succeed on your own, don't just do something because ffxi did it. If it becomes a new ffxi new players can't play, and it gets EXTREMELY boring. Only thing i see needed to make party a bit less fast-paced is giving us 30 min more on dungeons, that should be enough![]()
"There is very little time to chat, do homework, or even eat -let alone go to the bathroom, while partying. More steps must be taken in order to dramatically reduce the battle pace"
...Maybe you shouldn't be playing the game if you have homework? Just a thought.
LMAO!!! I just want to say, Rex, Chione, and Tymorra. Thank you for being the guiding light in this post. Some day people will realize that we left XI and came here for a reason. If we wanted to play XI we would. Does this game need improving, oh god yes! But its on it's way and in it's own time. Revamping all of XI's old ways would make this game pointless.
Last edited by Fira_Bug; 08-23-2011 at 06:39 PM.
Hi Fira_Bug, you know the reason some people feel like this game should copy some features from XI was because of the high expectations everyone had for it after the magnificent game they gave us before, i mean who would think that such an inferior product would be released right?LMAO!!! I just want to say, Rex, Chione, and Tymorra. Thank you for being the guiding light in this post. Some day people will realize that we left XI and came here for a reason. If we wanted to play XI we would. Does this game need improving, oh god yes! But its on it's way and in it's own time. Revamping all of XI's old ways would make this game pointless.
Anyway i bought this game for what's it worth wich is 5€ or something and i decided "ok it's free and it's improving so why don't i play for a while for a couple of hours a day." Well i've been doing just that for the past 2-3 months and let me tell you there's only 1 thing i can say i truly enjoy in this game wish is soloing some of the main scenario quests.
Everything else is just a mess or completly boring, like for example doing the same 8 leves everyday or the same dungeons, or quests that take you from A to B to talk and return to A.... or just kill 10 mobs and return... Even grinding that was something i enjoyed in XI, here it's just a mess where everyone just spams skills. And i haven't seen a shread of startegy in combat for all the time i've played, it's just skill spam on leves, grinding, NM hunting, everything gets killed the same way, SPAM Weapon SKills, SPAM Cures, SPAM Buffs and Debuffs, SPAM SPAM SPAM.
Anyway lately i've been thinking of quiting, and quiting a game that it's free... well that shows how much i'm not enjoying it, still hope it gets better but there's probably better game releases that will happen by the time this game decides to be "ready".
I leave you with this video of a LS killing 5 NM and tell me if there's any diference of what they are doing if not skill spamming on each one, awsome strategy right =/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhZJN...eature=related
And here's what i remenber when i think of FF XIV combat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
Last edited by Kobushi; 08-23-2011 at 07:26 PM.
I agree with you one some points, but you have to remember how horrible XI was when it first came out too. I played at JP launch, not NA but JP and there were so many things that were horrible. But 2 years later, they finally got right. In XI, grinding really was no different here, spam ws's and kill as fast as you can for more xp. Yes the NM's here have no real strategy but neither did most NM's in XI up until recently with the new Abyssea NM's. So we just have to give it time. It's going to remain free till they know the game is what it should be. I would just rather not them put EVERYTHING from XI in here. If I wanted to keep playing it, I would've stayed in Vana'Diel.
I guess you're right, sometimes being patient is not so easy heh, well i can always take a break and check it out again future, maybe at ps3 launch time
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