Wait as Default on Controllers

[Mutemutt]

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Don't worry about it, and just for the record, I ran into more trouble accidentally commencing than withdrawing. It wasn't a huge problem per se, but it was definitely a nuisance, especially when it would start pretty much instantly.

Anyway, I don't mind if they add in some option to change the default or something along those lines.

[sarehptar]

Don't worry about it, and just for the record, I ran into more trouble accidentally commencing than withdrawing. It wasn't a huge problem per se, but it was definitely a nuisance, especially when it would start pretty much instantly.

I must be the only person in the world who has never accidentally commenced. XD I guess this depends on what classes you are playing though; I imagine if your queues are super long all the time (poor DPS) you do get bored and start doing other things which could get you in trouble... I wonder also if system isn't part of it. On my PS4, the *ding* sound happens before the duty window pops up, but it sounds like for other people that's not the case?

In any case, I hope in the future this kind of thread will get the devs thinking and make them consider making new features optional right from the start. I'm sure they want their hard work on the new features to be valued, but with everybody's play style and needs being different, letting people select the options that works best for them could save a lot of people getting flustered on the forums. >_<

[Tiggy]

I imagine if your queues are super long all the time (poor DPS) you do get bored and start doing other things which could get you in trouble... I wonder also if system isn't part of it. On my PS4, the *ding* sound happens before the duty window pops up, but it sounds like for other people that's not the case?

You nailed it on the head right there. When queues take forever I don't walk away and just wait for my controller to ding. More specifically I'm on a pc using an xbox controller so I don't even have that ability to hear my controller ding. So i'll be sitting there filling my time doing something else and right as I'm navigating the menu and hit the A button accept a selection or the B to back out and bam the popup window appears right at that moment. Before you realize what happens you've already selected the default option or canceled out.

Please don't confuse being talked about with being talked to. Just because I mentioned one small idea of yours in that last post to Mutemutt in which I apparently "went off" (your point about accidental withdrawal) does not mean that post was in any way, shape, or form addressed to you. Please read things more carefully to avoid confusion.

So I guess you didn't say this right after I made my initial post making the same point?

You just undermined your own argument though--if this happened just last night, that means it's still possible to misclick, even with "Wait" as the default. So what is the point of even having Wait? It literally does nothing.

Right. You didn't say anything to me where reading more carefully may have prevented the entire argument. Gotcha. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[Mutemutt]

I must be the only person in the world who has never accidentally commenced. XD I guess this depends on what classes you are playing though; I imagine if your queues are super long all the time (poor DPS) you do get bored and start doing other things which could get you in trouble... I wonder also if system isn't part of it. On my PS4, the *ding* sound happens before the duty window pops up, but it sounds like for other people that's not the case?

Well I usually queued as a healer, so wait times weren't very long, but I wouldn't go afk or anything during the waits. Since I use x to target everything and make selections in the menu, there's a lot of chances for the commence window to just pop up and whisk me away for another wonderful romp through the Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak. Oh and on the ps3 the "ding" definitely happens at the same time the window pops up, in other words, too late.

And I have to say, it's really weird seeing my name mentioned so much...

[sarehptar]

And I have to say, it's really weird seeing my name mentioned so much...

I'm sorry that it had to be mentioned that much...

Maybe guaranteeing the "ding" happens a second or two before the windows pops up would be among the best options. I also queue as heals and also use X to target everything but I haven't had the issue of commencing accidentally, probably just because the sound on mine does come first.

Unrelated to your post Mute (now I am paranoid that I have to clarify exactly who I am talking to at any second...), but I don't want to double post: I'm for the idea of the commence window opening the background if it were added as an option, rather than a default. Personally, I am all for minimizing the amount of clicks/work I have to do to get into a dungeon, and on the PS4, sometimes the "select" to cycle through windows isn't as accurate as it could be--if the duty window opens in the background and they aren't careful about which option "select" goes to immediately, you could end up having to cycle through many different options before you can bring up the duty window... And heaven's forfend you click one too many times and have to cycle through everything that "select" can highlight on your screen (chat, open quests, any other open windows, hell, the mini map options if you aren't careful) all over again. That would be a pain. XD