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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Not to be overly rude but its really on you as a player if you accidentally commenced a duty. It dings and pops. If that wasn't enough "warning" that's really your fault. I have never accidentally commenced a duty or accidentally withdrew. I don't even know how that's possible honestly. You were either in a different Job/Class and couldn't except the Duty, in a cutscene, shop window etc and can't commence the duty, or you were doing something like gardening or fighting and could easily hit circle (unless you play like Logo I guess?) to put it away until you were ready. No one who is pro-wait option has even really explained HOW they accidentally commence/withdraw. Except for saying they are "mashing X", which is again their fault not the systems (they set up the DF and know what to expect) which only explains accidental commences not accidental withdraws.
    Under the old system, when your duty window pops the "Commence" button is defaulted and is immediately selectable. If you're in the process of pressing X and you don't notice this in time (and while people's recognition time varies from individual to individual, I think we can agree that NO ONE's recognition time is faster than a computer's) you will press X and enter the instance, even if you did not intend to. The fact that this has never happened to you, personally, is simply a matter of your personal good fortune, POSSIBLY coupled with a higher-than-average recognition time - not an indication that that the system was a good one. There's also the delay between your brain telling your thumb to press the button, and your muscles actually getting the job done. This, too, is not an instant process. I realize we're talking about fractions of a second, here, but the computer is STILL faster, by many orders of magnitude. There's PLENTY of space in there for a window to pop up.

    And, has been noted, X-mashing is not necessary for this to happen. You just have to tap X once, and if you have the misfortune of having the window pop at just that moment, BAM! you're in, ready or not. The new system fixes this, most thoroughly, though arguably not in the best way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    And, has been noted, X-mashing is not necessary for this to happen. You just have to tap X once, and if you have the misfortune of having the window pop at just that moment, BAM! you're in, ready or not. The new system fixes [changes] this, most thoroughly, though arguably not in the best way.
    Frankly this is a change to the system that as far as I can tell no one was asking for. Until this thread was created I'd never heard of anyone complaining about accidental commences. If that is a problem for someone then fine, give them the 'OPTION' to default to wait. Don't make EVERYONE do it.
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