Wait as Default on Controllers

[Logo]

Prior to 2.5, hitting Circle accomplished the same thing that 'Wait' does now. You just had to pop open the duty finder queue window to be able to bring it back up.



If you are fighting something, you probably are holding one of the trigger buttons down.. which makes hitting X activate the crossbar ability, even if the duty finder is up.

if your using toggle as an option, this is not the case.
it will pop and withdraw you while fighting.
it should default to wait , but changeable in settings.

everyone saying "wait" is ridiculous
should understand not everyone plays the way they do.

[VanilleFang]

if your using toggle as an option, this is not the case.
it will pop and withdraw you while fighting.
it should default to wait , but changeable in settings.

everyone saying "wait" is ridiculous
should understand not everyone plays the way they do.

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I literally have no idea what you are talking about.

Toggle as an option? Instantly withdrawing you while fighting? (You mean circle would do this?)

What ever way this is I don't know any one who plays like this. Circle, by default, lets you "wait" the DF so you can finish what you are doing.

Not to be overly rude but its really on you as a player if you accidentally commenced a duty. It dings and pops. If that wasn't enough "warning" that's really your fault. I have never accidentally commenced a duty or accidentally withdrew. I don't even know how that's possible honestly. You were either in a different Job/Class and couldn't except the Duty, in a cutscene, shop window etc and can't commence the duty, or you were doing something like gardening or fighting and could easily hit circle (unless you play like Logo I guess?) to put it away until you were ready. No one who is pro-wait option has even really explained HOW they accidentally commence/withdraw. Except for saying they are "mashing X", which is again their fault not the systems (they set up the DF and know what to expect) which only explains accidental commences not accidental withdraws.

This "wait" option is unneeded for many of us, and I would just like the option to make it so I don't hit Wait when I never screw up. I don't care if its there, I just don't want to have to deal with it.

[LineageRazor]

Not to be overly rude but its really on you as a player if you accidentally commenced a duty. It dings and pops. If that wasn't enough "warning" that's really your fault. I have never accidentally commenced a duty or accidentally withdrew. I don't even know how that's possible honestly. You were either in a different Job/Class and couldn't except the Duty, in a cutscene, shop window etc and can't commence the duty, or you were doing something like gardening or fighting and could easily hit circle (unless you play like Logo I guess?) to put it away until you were ready. No one who is pro-wait option has even really explained HOW they accidentally commence/withdraw. Except for saying they are "mashing X", which is again their fault not the systems (they set up the DF and know what to expect) which only explains accidental commences not accidental withdraws.

Under the old system, when your duty window pops the "Commence" button is defaulted and is immediately selectable. If you're in the process of pressing X and you don't notice this in time (and while people's recognition time varies from individual to individual, I think we can agree that NO ONE's recognition time is faster than a computer's) you will press X and enter the instance, even if you did not intend to. The fact that this has never happened to you, personally, is simply a matter of your personal good fortune, POSSIBLY coupled with a higher-than-average recognition time - not an indication that that the system was a good one. There's also the delay between your brain telling your thumb to press the button, and your muscles actually getting the job done. This, too, is not an instant process. I realize we're talking about fractions of a second, here, but the computer is STILL faster, by many orders of magnitude. There's PLENTY of space in there for a window to pop up.

And, has been noted, X-mashing is not necessary for this to happen. You just have to tap X once, and if you have the misfortune of having the window pop at just that moment, BAM! you're in, ready or not. The new system fixes this, most thoroughly, though arguably not in the best way.

[Cutie_McSnuggles]

And, has been noted, X-mashing is not necessary for this to happen. You just have to tap X once, and if you have the misfortune of having the window pop at just that moment, BAM! you're in, ready or not. The new system fixes [changes] this, most thoroughly, though arguably not in the best way.

Frankly this is a change to the system that as far as I can tell no one was asking for. Until this thread was created I'd never heard of anyone complaining about accidental commences. If that is a problem for someone then fine, give them the 'OPTION' to default to wait. Don't make EVERYONE do it.