Does something need to be done about Vote Abandon?

[Spawnie]

majority of people have trouble with 1st and last bosses...

1st boss is pretty basic if u know how to avoid doom altogether when u see the boss casting the doom skill turn around so your backs to it = doom will always miss.. did a run last night so many were wiping cause they were to slow removing doom.. once i suggested that not 1 person died in the whole group next attempt lol

[abzoluut]

In a way it's SE behaviour who caters to people who are new to MMO's way too much. All the content that were "too hard" according to a vocal minority, got nerfed (not talking about "outdated" content nerfs).

Some people wanted harder 24man content. They indeed tried and I think they've done a good job. It's still very casual from a raider's point of view, but a baby step in the right direction.

The thing I noticed was how many people (on patch day), just wanted to rush through it, yelling at other people for not knowing what to do (I did it 1,5 hours after the server came up), trying to boss people around and what not. Of course, this behaviour is just laughable acutally, but it's also what has been the trend this past year for FFXIV: make it accessible for new players, too hard = nerf.

I hope 3.0's normal and hard mode for raids are a start.

[Buff_Archer]

Vote abandon can lead to abuse in 4 person instances, especially where you get matched up with a pre-formed party. Case in point, last week I ran Low Level Roulette on my NIN I was levelling, and after I'd spent 45 min waiting the queue finally popped. The other DPS and Healer kept trolling and running ahead of the tank and pulling the entire room and wiping us. I'm finally like- you do realize I had to queue for almost an hour for this to level up right? They finally stop and we clear the first room, and they do it a couple of times and then we get through second boss, and at this point I've wasted time before the dungeon, and time during the dungeon. There's enough time to finish it but then they just vote abandon it after we down the second boss and all that time to get the exp for finishing that dungeon was wasted. Had to queue up all over again and wait on a new party.

This is the type of situation where we should be able to identify characters by name with a screenshot or vid link and not get in trouble for violating the name & shame policy. Maybe they didn't technically break the rules but it was intentional harrassment by wasting my time.

[Sethala]

Personally, I wish that if a vote abandon was successful, those who voted to not abandon get to stay there and re-queue for more people (or can leave with no penalty). Also, there should be a minimum delay of about 10 minutes after a failed abandon vote before anyone can call for a vote, and the same person has to wait about 30 minutes before they can call for another one.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

But wouldn't this lead to another problem? All but one person votes no for abandon. The lone person who voted no would be ushered out by the game and suffer no penalty for it, leading the way for others to avoid rage quit penalties.

[kyuven]

Vote Abandon is fine the way it is except for one thing...
It should identify who's initiating the vote so those who abuse it can be identified and kicked for harassment.

[Logo]

This is a discussion.

After running world of darkness 20 times last night and not getting a single win, I think it's time to ask this question.

I hope this is hyperbole.
like really?
20?

I think my question would be..
"Should I be playing this game?"

[Haibel]

I hope this is hyperbole.
like really?
20?

I think my question would be..
"Should I be playing this game?"

Yes it was 20 times and it had nothing to do with me. I was Nearly the last person to died in almost all wipes.
there is only so much one person can do with wipe mechanics that involve multiple people. Your response really
type casts you as the typically rage quitting / vote dismissing dick that whines any chance they can.

[Kuroyasha]

I havent done WoD yet but am looking forward to it. I miss reading the rage and sarcasm in the comments after a wipe. Always makes me laugh.

[Evergrey]

Its so funny that people quit after 1 or 2 wipes in a brand new content where people are still polishing and figuring out the tactics.
I bet that most people who initiate a vote abandon are people who are looking for a group that already knows it and can get carried through it.
If not they would actually stay and try to learn for themselves.