Does something need to be done about Vote Abandon?

[Haibel]

This is a discussion.

After running world of darkness 20 times last night and not getting a single win, I think it's time to ask this question. Does vote abandon need some adjustments?

I think it just ridiculous that I wasn't able to get a win last night not because we couldn't win but because people are toxic little trolls. I had one party disband w/ 40 minutes left on CoD just because two people in the run were loud mouths.

[Devils_Lawyer]

It dosnt need changing cause the only way a vote abandon would happen is if more then half of the group wants to do so thus majority rules.

[Fynlar]

If most people actually want to leave (i.e. they vote yes) then there's not really much to be done about that. :/

But what's irritating as hell is when the group clearly wants to keep going forward, yet there's one or two annoying little trolls that will keep trying to vote abandon over and over thinking they are going to magically change the party's mind. I actually just made a thread about this not long ago.

[Devils_Lawyer]

If most people actually want to leave (i.e. they vote yes) then there's not really much to be done about that. :/

But what's irritating as hell is when the group clearly wants to keep going forward, yet there's one or two annoying little trolls that will keep trying to vote abandon over and over thinking they are going to magically change the party's mind. I actually just made a thread about this not long ago.

This i can agree with, if votekick has a 4 hour cooldown then vote abandon should have one aswell.

[Haibel]

This i can agree with, if votekick has a 4 hour cooldown then vote abandon should have one aswell.

This is the kinda change I'm looking for. That and who is proposing the vote. But if you get a one off on a vote. knowing who is proposing is moot.

[RuruKun]

Yeah i experienced this myself last night. I, of course, clicked no because WoD was what I was looking forward to the most in this patch only to have annoying little sh*ts give up just like that! I mean c'mon ppl!!!

still pretty upset about it!

[Fornix]

It dosnt need changing cause the only way a vote abandon would happen is if more then half of the group wants to do so thus majority rules.

Which doesn't mean that the time of those who are willing to stay, and finish off the dungeon with new players who are willing to join an in progress dungeon, has to be completely wasted.

Using vote abandon definitely ranks #1 by far on the most selfish acts which can be taken within an instance.

[Devils_Lawyer]

Which doesn't mean that the time of those who are willing to stay, and finish off the dungeon with new players who are willing to join an in progress dungeon, has to be completely wasted.

Using vote abandon definitely ranks #1 by far on the most selfish acts which can be taken within an instance.

Alltho i agree with you one way or another if people want to leave the duty without penalty they will, if not from a vote abandon then sitting down and do nothing till they get kicked or so would also be their option.

That said what i would like to see is that IF a vote abandon succeds then the people voted yes should be automaticly removed and those who voted no should remain or have a popup message asking if they want to leave aswell or stay.

[Niwashi]

It dosnt need changing cause the only way a vote abandon would happen is if more then half of the group wants to do so thus majority rules.

I'm pretty sure it only takes half, and not a majority. Personally, I think it really should require a unanimous consensus. Either that, or at least let the people who didn't agree to abandon remain there to pick up new players to fill the places of those who left. Why should those who never agreed to abandon it lose their run as well just because a couple other people couldn't be bothered to finish what they started.

(Last time I lost a run this way had nothing to do with difficulty of the run. It was a story-mode Brayflox run we were breezing through with no problems at all, but about 3/4 of the way through, one of the players declared it was getting late and she was tired of playing, another said yeah me too, and together they ended our run, knocking me and the fourth player out before reaching the last two chests. Really frustrating after waiting in a long queue to get in. I thought it quite rude to use Abandon like that, when they should have just used Leave when it was themselves and not the run that had the problem.)

[Giantbane]

Either that, or at least let the people who didn't agree to abandon remain there to pick up new players to fill the places of those who left. Why should those who never agreed to abandon it lose their run as well just because a couple other people couldn't be bothered to finish what they started.

This, basically. Every instance vote abandon has been used outside of primal fights, I would have vastly preferred to have the option to stay in the dungeon to wait for new players. Even in a situation where I DON'T want to wait for new players, and would want to leave immediately it's still not a problem. In this case, the group is not full, so I can leave without penalty anyway.