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  1. #31
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    Niwashi's Avatar
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Coeurl
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    Ninja Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer View Post
    It dosnt need changing cause the only way a vote abandon would happen is if more then half of the group wants to do so thus majority rules.
    I'm pretty sure it only takes half, and not a majority. Personally, I think it really should require a unanimous consensus. Either that, or at least let the people who didn't agree to abandon remain there to pick up new players to fill the places of those who left. Why should those who never agreed to abandon it lose their run as well just because a couple other people couldn't be bothered to finish what they started.

    (Last time I lost a run this way had nothing to do with difficulty of the run. It was a story-mode Brayflox run we were breezing through with no problems at all, but about 3/4 of the way through, one of the players declared it was getting late and she was tired of playing, another said yeah me too, and together they ended our run, knocking me and the fourth player out before reaching the last two chests. Really frustrating after waiting in a long queue to get in. I thought it quite rude to use Abandon like that, when they should have just used Leave when it was themselves and not the run that had the problem.)
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  2. #32
    Player Buff_Archer's Avatar
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    Buff Archer
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    Diabolos
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Vote abandon can lead to abuse in 4 person instances, especially where you get matched up with a pre-formed party. Case in point, last week I ran Low Level Roulette on my NIN I was levelling, and after I'd spent 45 min waiting the queue finally popped. The other DPS and Healer kept trolling and running ahead of the tank and pulling the entire room and wiping us. I'm finally like- you do realize I had to queue for almost an hour for this to level up right? They finally stop and we clear the first room, and they do it a couple of times and then we get through second boss, and at this point I've wasted time before the dungeon, and time during the dungeon. There's enough time to finish it but then they just vote abandon it after we down the second boss and all that time to get the exp for finishing that dungeon was wasted. Had to queue up all over again and wait on a new party.

    This is the type of situation where we should be able to identify characters by name with a screenshot or vid link and not get in trouble for violating the name & shame policy. Maybe they didn't technically break the rules but it was intentional harrassment by wasting my time.
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  3. #33
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    Sethala's Avatar
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    Sethala Lacuva
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Personally, I wish that if a vote abandon was successful, those who voted to not abandon get to stay there and re-queue for more people (or can leave with no penalty). Also, there should be a minimum delay of about 10 minutes after a failed abandon vote before anyone can call for a vote, and the same person has to wait about 30 minutes before they can call for another one.
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  4. #34
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    But wouldn't this lead to another problem? All but one person votes no for abandon. The lone person who voted no would be ushered out by the game and suffer no penalty for it, leading the way for others to avoid rage quit penalties.
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  5. #35
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    kyuven's Avatar
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Archer Lv 90
    Vote Abandon is fine the way it is except for one thing...
    It should identify who's initiating the vote so those who abuse it can be identified and kicked for harassment.
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  6. #36
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    Thera Logo
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haibel View Post
    This is a discussion.

    After running world of darkness 20 times last night and not getting a single win, I think it's time to ask this question.
    I hope this is hyperbole.
    like really?
    20?

    I think my question would be..
    "Should I be playing this game?"
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  7. #37
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    Kuroyasha's Avatar
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    Kuroyasha Tenshi
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    I havent done WoD yet but am looking forward to it. I miss reading the rage and sarcasm in the comments after a wipe. Always makes me laugh.
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  8. #38
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Odin
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    Its so funny that people quit after 1 or 2 wipes in a brand new content where people are still polishing and figuring out the tactics.
    I bet that most people who initiate a vote abandon are people who are looking for a group that already knows it and can get carried through it.
    If not they would actually stay and try to learn for themselves.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logo View Post
    I hope this is hyperbole.
    like really?
    20?

    I think my question would be..
    "Should I be playing this game?"
    Yes it was 20 times and it had nothing to do with me. I was Nearly the last person to died in almost all wipes.
    there is only so much one person can do with wipe mechanics that involve multiple people. Your response really
    type casts you as the typically rage quitting / vote dismissing dick that whines any chance they can.
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    Adol Giantbane
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Either that, or at least let the people who didn't agree to abandon remain there to pick up new players to fill the places of those who left. Why should those who never agreed to abandon it lose their run as well just because a couple other people couldn't be bothered to finish what they started.
    This, basically. Every instance vote abandon has been used outside of primal fights, I would have vastly preferred to have the option to stay in the dungeon to wait for new players. Even in a situation where I DON'T want to wait for new players, and would want to leave immediately it's still not a problem. In this case, the group is not full, so I can leave without penalty anyway.
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