Don't tell me what to do!

[Kiroh]

Nobody has any right to tell someone how to play.

I had a SMN in Amdapor Keep HM today. This summoner was by nearly any reasonable account not doing her job, they flubbed mechanics that had been repeatedly explained to them and constantly died to easily avoidable attacks. No one had the guts to speak up and tell this person how poor their performance was or even give them advice, this continued the entire dungeon to the point that by the 4th wipe on the last boss I simply could not continue wasting my mp to raise them. I had to step in and take her place as a dps as well as continue my own role as healer. This is the kind of players you create as a community when you decide nobody has the right to speak up or criticize, and I sincerely hope each and every person echoing this sentiment in this thread gets partied with them every time their duties pop.

[Elusana_Celah]

I don't mind being informed new ideas or how to do something. Now what irks me is like, for example, during this Battle in the Big Keep fight I'm main tanking and this offtank tells me to move Greg away from the chained person so I do it. Then the next 3 times Greg chains someone, "move him away!!" "Move him away!!!" Like ok I'm doing it on my own I don't need frequent reminders after you told me the first time.

That is my personal peeve. I can only endure it for so long before I tell the person to stfu or I intentionally do the opposite of what I'm being told.

[Starlord]

No wipes- No words from me (regardless how said person plays)
1 wipe- It happens, lets try it again ( and also observe the people around me)
2 wipes- Locate the problem that is causing said wipe, if its not the content but a person's playstyle, kindly suggest to the person your advice.
3rd-5th wipes- Letting the person adjust to said advice (or not it doesn't matter, play how you want I suppose)
6th wipe- Vote Abandon/leave since the party isn't going anywhere.

If I do say anything it's only once, if I don't see progression within the content, I will simply leave.

[Kiara1]

When I started leveling summoner I was still an arcanist in Haukke manor or it might have been the one before that.
The tank told me in a very nice way that "You can dot up all the mobs before casting ruin"
And I did and that was that, its not like I'd get mad about someone helping me out.

Something that drives me crazy is black mages that don't know their rotation.
I had this one who started his rotation with blizzard 1->blizzard 1->Blizzard 3-> transpose ->fire 1 ->fire 1-> fire1... ->transpose... and repeat
I didn't say anything because I am a nice person, but inside I wanted to scream at him to at least read the text that comes with the traits and abilities.

This guy had novus and was at least ilvl 115..

[Silkerin]

Something that drives me crazy is black mages that don't know their rotation.
I had this one who started his rotation with blizzard 1->blizzard 1->Blizzard 3-> transpose ->fire 1 ->fire 1-> fire1... ->transpose... and repeat

what about the ones that start the fight with flare right of the bat?

[Tiggy]

I intentionally do the opposite of what I'm being told.

I'll never ever understand this mindset. You're going to respond to a single person harassing you by just being outright bad and punishing the 6 people that had absolutely nothing to do with the problem. Way to act like an adult.

[Kiara1]

what about the ones that start the fight with flare right of the bat?

Haha I had one of those in Castrum, he had just hit level 50 I assumed.

Flare-> Wait until fire stance is gone -> wait for mana -> freeze freeze freeze-> flare

Couldn't help it I laughed

[AlexionSkylark]

No wipes- No words from me (regardless how said person plays)
1 wipe- It happens, lets try it again ( and also observe the people around me)
2 wipes- Locate the problem that is causing said wipe, if its not the content but a person's playstyle, kindly suggest to the person your advice.
3rd-5th wipes- Letting the person adjust to said advice (or not it doesn't matter, play how you want I suppose)
6th wipe- Vote Abandon/leave since the party isn't going anywhere.

If I do say anything it's only once, if I don't see progression within the content, I will simply leave.

If you think something like, for example, a coil learning group can clear in less than 6 wipes you are delusional at best, and an asshole at worst.

[Starlord]

You are much, much worse than they are.

The people telling you what to do are at least trying to win the fight. You are just sperging out and ruining the game for everyone.

I would never do what Elusana is doing, because defending myself is something I haven't been able to do! However, Tank A already knows what to do but Tank B is Yelling at the person to do exactly what she has been doing. Yes I don't blame her to go and do the reverse. Yes it's not the Adult thing to do, but if said person keeps on doing it, outbursts do happen.

I'll just have popcorn on 1 hand and playing with the other :P.

[Magis]

Trolling and Shitty advice aside,

If you are not playing your job correctly or to it's fullest extent, then you should improve yourself. Take advice people give you on rotations. When I first got to 50 as BLM in 2.0, I didn't realize that you should cast Fire 3 only to get the 3 stack and on firestarter procs. Someone corrected me when we were downing Ultima and I switched to it pumping out way more damage. I don't understand this "I WANT TO PLAY MY WAY" notion when your playing a game where teamwork matters. I was greatly thankful of that person and I always take advise from other players who are probably more experienced than me on jobs I don't play much. It just shocks me players would rather play their job badly than at their best. I guess it's a "my way is the best way" thing?

An example I recall was a warrior in Stone Vigil. After wiping the group a few times due to patrols, I told him he should use tomahawk to pull the adds to him, so he can tank them safely. He didn't respond, and refused to use it, face pulling the mobs. After the 4th time me and the others started to get agitated and all of us kept repeating to him to throw tomahawk or we will keep dying. Finally he told us not to tell him how to play. Like... wtf? Why would you rather wipe over and over than progress and do better? I just don't understand.

Than again, FFXIV ARR shoves the "you don't need to care about other people" idea in your face from the get go (easy soloing, no commitment to other players thanks to DF, etc) so much I am not surprised people treat the game like a singleplayer game.