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  1. #51
    Player
    SayuriHime's Avatar
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    Tayana Estella
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Yukariko View Post
    what always enters my my mind, and one of you guys can explain, is how do you know?
    During the dungeon, I was very much thinking the same thing Yukariko. We were doing AK (the first one, old easy one) and the Black Mage was using Flare as part of his combo. The ninja kept saying "Stop using Flare! It uses all your mp!". I was thinking "I am pretty sure the Black Mage knows what his spells do."

    Also during the dungeon, I did speak up but not about specifically in defense of the Black Mage. I made small talk and general conversation to change the subject and bring humor to the dungeon. When the Ninja started nagging, I would say silly things like "Only combo I know is Holy Holy Holy o/" and stuff of that nature. I didn't want the Black Mage to feel bad and I also didn't want to bring confrontation to the dungeon by blasting the rude Ninja.
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  2. #52
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    CUTS3R's Avatar
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    F'lhinna Kutseru
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60
    I have to admit when im on my main job ( which is WHM ), i tend to be a diva. I literally have power of life and death over others players so you better do everything you can to keep me pleased.

    When im on DF and you do any "lolnub" comment about me i disapprove, i simply stop doing any action right away and go AFK.

    If i need advices ( on a new instance strat for example ) don't worry i'll let you know about it.
    Until i ask anything, you better keep your mouth shut especially when you don't even have a WHM at 50.

    I know im not the best WHM out there but tbh i rarely get any criticism.
    I occasionally get one ofc but its either by new players who started the game 2 days ago and "know the game better than me" or from ppl who never touched the WHM job in their Mogdamn life.

    I do see alot of ppl raging about BLM biased rotation though and ofc Tanks.

    PS: In the other hand if you say your criticism in a constructive manner i welcome it, andi will discuss it with you.
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    Last edited by CUTS3R; 01-23-2015 at 12:28 AM.

  3. #53
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    Ryock's Avatar
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    Character
    Samantha Kilweign
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 70
    No matter how fast you are, or how well you play, or how experienced you may be, someone somewhere will find something wrong with it. If the crystal tower quest line has taught me anything, it's that people love to complain and bicker no matter what. Are you new? Too bad, should've had it done the moment the server came up. Missed a proc? You can't pay attention. Have a differing opinion? Too bad, yours is wrong and will not be held for consideration. They can be rather selfish, rude, and full of themselves. To a lot of these people, you are a mere plebeian or NPC who just happens to be along for the ride in their quest for the ultimate item level score. Which is why when I tank, I may "accidentally" lose aggro. My bad.

    ...... it's not all bad though. Keep your head high, and stick up for your fellow man/woman. Worse comes to worst, kick them if you can. Nobody has any right to tell someone how to play.
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  4. #54
    Player
    CUTS3R's Avatar
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    F'lhinna Kutseru
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryock View Post
    To a lot of these people, you are a mere plebeian or NPC who just happens to be along for the ride in their quest for the ultimate item level score.
    I won't lie by saying that some times, this is indeed how i see people.
    Especially when doing low level DR.
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  5. #55
    Player Jeckyl_Tesla's Avatar
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    Character
    Cap'n Jack
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    Omega
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    Marauder Lv 61
    Bad people will be bad. Simply put. And they'll get on their high horse about it too.

    I remember the time I asked a SCH "Hey mate, quick tip here, if you can succor the group and adlo the tank pre-pull, it'll cut down a lot on early damage "

    This was while tanking a boss so I didn't have the most time to write out a full message. What I got in return was "Don't need to be an jerk about it. Especially when giving bad advice."

    Then his friend proceeded to say " u mad" when I said it was a friendly tip.

    Some people cannot be saved by their own stupidity.
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  6. #56
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    Sumimi's Avatar
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    Character
    Sumimi Sumomo
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    Here's a rule a thumb I normally take. When dealing with strangers (*cough cough* DF), ask first.

    If someone else comments on my DF play style during roulette, I just...well don't care. I'm notorious for not paying attention when I'm on my BLM, I go down to ~100 MP with my fires before going to blizzard 3, transpose early, forget second tick after a flare, scathe 2-3x trying to kill a mob, it just goes on. If I see it happen to someone else, I generally get some popcorn. I'll say something if it gets out of hand though. After all, everyone in there just wants to finish the dungeon.

    Anything outside of roulette, sure I'll pay attention. The problem is that roulette is such a snoozefest that I don't want to utilize brain power for the extra DPS.

    Constructive criticism is generally welcome, but it shouldn't be jammed down the other person's throat. If they don't heed your advise, leave them alone. If you really can't stand it, just leave and take a break.
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  7. #57
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    Kazumac's Avatar
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    Kha'tan Moapaln
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeckyl_Tesla View Post
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    TBH I conciously dont do this during a lot of 4man runs because my fairy can keep the tank up (and I'm in cleric the whole time) and there isn't any AOE damage in the next 30 sec.

    When I know the content I may opt to not do something that is technically the most efficient way due to knowing ahead of time it isn't needed. In that case it's a concious decision and probably would just respond that it isn't needed In this case. (Your annecdote may have been a time where it was helpful... Not arguing that point)
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  8. #58
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    Cronar's Avatar
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    Cronar Masaki
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    Ramuh
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    for me this is simple.. if we are moving thru the dungeon and not wiping every five seconds I don't really care how you play or what you do in terms of rotation spells pulls agro and what not. we clear it I am good. now if a player is totally keeping med from getting to the end.. I will just say I am out and leave and get or find someone who is better. I never see a need to dog anyone over anything. we are all playing a game to have fun. take away my fun I will move on. I believe in one simple rule when it comes to this kinda stuff. live and let live. easy. it is not my job to tell others how they should play. if a blm can help me get to the end by spamming bliz2 then by all mean spam away. but if it gets me killed over and over.. then sorry I am out.
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  9. #59
    Player Jeckyl_Tesla's Avatar
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    Cap'n Jack
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    Omega
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    Marauder Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazumac View Post
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    TBH I conciously dont do this during a lot of 4man runs because my fairy can keep the tank up (and I'm in cleric the whole time) and there isn't any AOE damage in the next 30 sec.

    When I know the content I may opt to not do something that is technically the most efficient way due to knowing ahead of time it isn't needed. In that case it's a concious decision and probably would just respond that it isn't needed In this case. (Your annecdote may have been a time where it was helpful... Not arguing that point)
    Oh no doubt it's not needed. But it's not a BAD tip. Succor > Adlo pre pull is just the norm for SCH's to do. Apparently, in this guys book, it's the wrong thing to do.
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  10. #60
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    Kyandeisu's Avatar
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    Character
    Kya Waifu
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 90
    I would usually just tell the person doing the hounding to not get their panties in a bunch and that the "victim" is doing an okay job. not everyone is perfect.

    Thou..normally the "panties in a bunch" comment normally pisses off pplz lol
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