Ranged DPS dominating Slaughter Mode

[Red_Wolf]

it is painfully clear that you didn't play WD when it was active.

Everyone says this to try and appear more experienced. And then someone chimes in with how SMN and BLM were nerfed after WD.

[Houston009]

Everyone says this to try and appear more experienced. And then someone chimes in with how SMN and BLM were nerfed after WD.

SMN's raw damage was untouched with the "Nerf", which shortened EVERY JOB's CC. Only thing that got nerfed was swiftcast, however SMN just needs the dot to be on you. It's painfully clear that you didn't experience high-end PvP.

Is it that hard for melees to time their LB? It's just patience.

In secure they used to send a Ninja in stealth and LB me while the rest of the team went up the ramp. Slaughter is pretty much the same. A couple of PMs I've seen send in a melee to LB the healer right before stacked cometeors.

I have no idea what it is you're trying to get at. So, 1 melee LBs a random healer, then Casters follow up with we've been trying to explain to you is OP? Why not just CC the healer and stack the Cometeors on them, instead of sending your melee on a suicide mission?

I've been asking you to tell me how well MELEE LB COORDINATION (JUST THEM) is compared to CASTER LB COORDINATION. <.<

[Red_Wolf]

It's painfully clear that you didn't experience high-end PvP.

It's painfully clear that you don't know how vital swiftcast is to mages. I got hurt pretty bad every match until I leveled Thaumaturge. And please don't argue that a DoT spec has absurdly high burst and question someone else's PvP experience.

I've been asking you to tell me how well MELEE LB COORDINATION (JUST THEM) is compared to CASTER LB COORDINATION. <.<

It's not like I'm just going to give you instructions on how to kill me. I have a little more respect for my fellow WHM's. Take your time and learn how to play like everyone else.

9 times out of 10 I die to a melee LB. Caster damage is easily healed through. But once in a while I screw up and get caught up the giant noob cometeor cluster.

[Atreus]

9 times out of 10 I die to a melee LB. Caster damage is easily healed through. But once in a while I screw up and get caught up the giant noob cometeor cluster.

Switch accessories into VIT. You'll start laughing at melee adrenaline like everyone else is and probably change that tune.

[Red_Wolf]

Switch accessories into VIT. You'll start laughing at melee adrenaline like everyone else is and probably change that tune.

Did that a long time ago. 3.8k+ isn't laugh-able no matter how many times I survive it. It's still a Kill Caster button that I've never seen the like of in any PvP game. Even EQ Pallys could only cast that nuke once a day.

I've argued a 100 times that being forced to wear tank gear that benefits me in no other way than HP clearly shows how OP the melee LB is. But then I have a swarm of idiots telling me I don't have to wear Vit gear and that I'm just exaggerating.

[Potatoes]

Did that a long time ago. 3.8k+ isn't laugh-able no matter how many times I survive it. It's still a Kill Caster button

Now this I can actually sympathize with. When I'm on Bard I have about 4.4k HP and I just kinda laugh off melee limits because I just recouperate/second wind and I always bring HQ Mega-potions. I think SMN could use a pvp skill that's a drain that doubles as a second wind counterpart.

Also for the VIT thing, there's vit accessories like the Hellwolf Ring which has Det/Crit on it. There's no need to be wearing dud VIT accessories if you're going to wear them.

Edit: Actually they could just make it a 3rd trait for Wither to slot because it doesn't have the extra feature of knockback that Glory Slash does and as far as I know there's no reliable way to debuff in a specific order so it would give it a lot more utility outside of just another skill to burst with.

[Red_Wolf]

Also for the VIT thing, there's vit accessories like the Hellwolf Ring which has Det/Crit on it. There's no need to be wearing dud VIT accessories if you're going to wear them.

Correct, I wear the "of Fending" WD accessories . There might be something better out there but this is what I have right now. I want Piety.

[StouterTaru]

I have no idea what it is you're trying to get at. So, 1 melee LBs a random healer, then Casters follow up with we've been trying to explain to you is OP? Why not just CC the healer and stack the Cometeors on them, instead of sending your melee on a suicide mission?

It's a decoy to pull the party into a cluster. If you shout "grenade" and throw a grenade, people run away. If you shout "free ice cream" and have a guy handing out ice cream, people group up.

[Red_Wolf]

It's a decoy to pull the party into a cluster. If you shout "grenade" and throw a grenade, people run away. If you shout "free ice cream" and have a guy handing out ice cream, people group up.

Cat is out of the bag now.

[Potatoes]

Everyone says this to try and appear more experienced. And then someone chimes in with how SMN and BLM were nerfed after WD.

except BLM damage has been recently buffed. the nerfs to BLM CC was also just universal CC nerfs.

BLM aside, the SMN nerf was to stop nonstop raises from non-healing jobs/classes. Disease nerf was needed too because the effect from Storm's Eye and Disease stacked and with the heavy effect and you turned into an unhealable slow moving deadman because you recieve -66% heals.

How can you not understand how good SMN burst is? like if you sit down and do the math you can do 300 + 80 +150 + 80 potency in about 4-5 seconds and that's not counting the pet's damage which is another 100 potency. I would say thanks to the damage buff BLM beats out SMN in burst due to firestarter and phantom dart but SMN still has a hefty single target burst. even if you don't kill they're stuck with disease to recover from and dots still ticking.