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    Quote Originally Posted by Potatoes View Post
    you don't need an alliance of black mages to kill a single melee, kill them just the same no matter how many people are around you.
    In small groups, melee don't have to retreat when they're being focused. There is no way ranged can burst them down with the amount of interrupts they have to deal with. So melee have little to no threat. You said yourself that you get to "run around wild".

    Remember Secure? The melees swarm the casters until one of the team's casters/healers are dead. Then whoever has the last healer standing wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    Remember Secure? The melees swarm the casters until one of the team's casters/healers are dead. Then whoever has the last healer standing wins.
    There's really no convincing you otherwise is there? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreus View Post
    There's really no convincing you otherwise is there? lol
    I cannot tell a lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    In small groups, melee don't have to retreat when they're being focused.
    Yes they do. The threat is quite considerable actually.

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    There is no way ranged can burst them down with the amount of interrupts they have to deal with.
    Uh, what are you rolling? One caster and 0-1 healer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    "run around wild"
    It's an expression that means they don't have to worry about a column of 10+ back-liners instagibbing them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    Remember Secure? The melees swarm the casters until one of the team's casters/healers are dead. Then whoever has the last healer standing wins.
    We have different experiences of Secure. For my team, stacking either melee or ranged has never been optimal for us. Ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreus View Post
    Yes they do. The threat is quite considerable actually.
    Well stop whatever it was you were doing in the small instance and go kill the caster. They are the ones that either have to run away from you or cast pathetic instants on you when focused.

    It is just absurd to come on here and claim melee does anything but dominate small Slaughters and Secure. In the larger Slaughter casters have enough space to actually cast so you can't run around wild. You have to retreat when being focused. EVERYONE stacked melee in Secure. There was no point in playing BLM unless you were happy doing CC exclusively. You saw about one in a 24 person raid and summoners were almost non-existent.
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    EVERYONE needs help when being focused lol. No one's gonna target your casters if you have a sufficient number of healers. And if they are, then who cares, the caster is doing a good service keeping your backbone alive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    There was no point in playing BLM unless you were happy doing CC exclusively.
    Really now, I have a ton of scoreboard screens of Secure showing our BLM topping on damage. It's even scarier when he gets paired with our SMN. Hold whatever opinion you want on the matter, just know that your opinion is based on the bads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreus View Post
    Really now, I have a ton of scoreboard screens of Secure showing our BLM topping on damage. It's even scarier when he gets paired with our SMN. Hold whatever opinion you want on the matter, just know that your opinion is based on the bads.
    There are great BLM's out there. It's just a shame that it only takes a mediocre melee to completely shut them down and kill them.
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