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    Tessa Gray
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreus View Post
    Was the ninja hidden or did it look like he had Suiton ready to go? Trick Attack bursts are quick, strong, and have little wind-up but after that they won't be repeating it. Sucks that guy was wrecked so quickly but it really sounds like he got played. What was the target then? BLM, SMN, healer?
    We were standing at the Adders OP and the NIN ran up in full view and began whaling on the SMN next to me. My revive was off cd and I wanted to see how fast he could kill my partner b/c of something another NIN told me in a FL. So I counted, hit, stun, dead. That fast. I've never played a NIN so I cant tell you everything he used but I know there was a stun or two and after that: game over. No lb.
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    Lin Celistine
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiSocialPanda View Post
    We were standing at the Adders OP and the NIN ran up in full view and began whaling on the SMN next to me. My revive was off cd and I wanted to see how fast he could kill my partner b/c of something another NIN told me in a FL. So I counted, hit, stun, dead. That fast. I've never played a NIN so I cant tell you everything he used but I know there was a stun or two and after that: game over. No lb.
    Just a question, are your Squishis going in with VIT Accessories? Tankyness is a huge thing for these fights and I've noticed a profound survival difference between those that do and do not go VIT in these fights. I don't know how your partner was working but it may help if not.

    Typically, as a PLD, my job is to intercept those who try to attack my healers and in the event of them being overwhemed, cover and hope they can pull of a sleep before I die ^^;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    Just a question, are your Squishis going in with VIT Accessories? Tankyness is a huge thing for these fights and I've noticed a profound survival difference between those that do and do not go VIT in these fights. I don't know how your partner was working but it may help if not.

    Typically, as a PLD, my job is to intercept those who try to attack my healers and in the event of them being overwhemed, cover and hope they can pull of a sleep before I die ^^;
    I seriously doubt he has any, but I'd have to ask to be sure. He's more concerned with getting kills than anything so VIT is probably second priority to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiSocialPanda View Post
    I seriously doubt he has any, but I'd have to ask to be sure. He's more concerned with getting kills than anything so VIT is probably second priority to him.
    That's probably the problem.

    Black Mages have no knockback, but they have several CC abilities that keep the enemy at bay and enable them to get distance. Specificly, Two Sleeps (one instant), Two Binds (both AoE) and a Weight. They can also Flee with impunity.

    Summoner have an instant Blind, a Knockback (Garuda) or a Stun (Ifrit/Titan) and two Binds (One subbed)

    Both of them have methods for instant casting and guaranteed casting aside from being stunned.

    So they are not without their peel tools. They're just not as easy to execute as say, having the local paladin walk up and bash a shield in a Ninja's face till they get Holmganged by the Warrior.

    But that's ok, they get to sleep that pesky white mage that's healing that bloody Ninja.
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    Atreus Auditore
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    Suiton will look like a water spout followed pretty much immediately with a hard burst, in case you find the situation again. Idk if that SMN saw him coming or prepared but you can mess up a NIN's mudras with CC. No Fetter Ward for them either. Garuda knockback > Tri-Disaster = crippled.

    Not saying the NIN wouldn't have still won, but the SMN seemed unprepared. He gon' learn today.
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    I was thinking maybe for every Adrenaline rush you get hit by fills gauge by 50%. With lag and some premades and even not premades I have to check and see how many cometeors go off. I have seen 6 in a row non premades and 10 in a row premade. As a healer in slaughter you gte hit less. So wearing all pvp healer gear and not tank gear puts you a bit over 4k. Which equals 1 cometeor maybe 2. With buff and vit build I can survive 3.

    Watching someone die with the lag is a little misleading. When all 72 are up top and there are attcks and heals all go off and 3 teams are in 3 whole panels I get the hunt slide. Where people don't move but just slide around.
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Yesterday I was in 8v8v8 bracket and dragoon had more kills than everybody else and more damage than everybody else. He just died once because of melee limit. I played healer in that time and he/she was pretty well in range always so it was pretty easy keep him/her alive.
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    Last edited by Sunako; 02-09-2015 at 07:59 PM.

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    Sophie Miret-njer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    Yesterday I was in 8v8v8 bracket and dragoon had more kills than everybody else and more damage than everybody else. He just died once because of melee limit. I played healer in that time and he/she was pretty well in range always so it was pretty easy keep him/her alive.
    this is what is really cool about 24 man games, melee really gets to open up and run wild and it almost feels balanced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potatoes View Post
    this is what is really cool about 24 man games, melee really gets to open up and run wild and it almost feels balanced.
    By balanced you mean melee players no longer have any threat and go around interrupting the casters and killing them easily.

    Notice that Sunako said the Dragoon stayed within healing range the whole time. A lot of melee players in Slaughter would have much better numbers if they did this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    By balanced you mean melee players no longer have any threat and go around interrupting the casters and killing them easily.
    ??? you don't need an alliance of black mages to kill a single melee, kill them just the same no matter how many people are around you. all that 24 man means is that they get to spread out more due to no central boss nodes with drones spread out across the middle. it's easier for them to escape as well because there's not an alliance of blms all trying to kill one marked melee.

    which is why 24 man is a completely different game than 72. but that's a different thread altogether.
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