Ranged DPS dominating Slaughter Mode

[hallena]

All these melee crying about how horrible life is. Yet melees are telling casters to L2P and "git gud" in secure.

Yes casters are overpowered in slaughter but the irony and hypocrisy is priceless.
That comment earlier about those who benifit from something also apply to you.

Ninjas specialy crying about anything is the best

[yuixjfa]

Ninjas specialy crying about anything is the best

It's funnier when people complain about Ninjas.

[hallena]

It's funnier when people complain about Ninjas.

Casters have all the right in the world to complain about ninjas. They are worse than super glue and unlike bards we can't attack while moving and have our cast interupted by damage, including daggers throw
But hey!

people who benifit from something dont see its problem

[Red_Wolf]

It's funnier when people complain about Ninjas.

Maybe because in Secure premades built whole strategies around ninja's coming in stealth and popping a LB on the healer before attacking. It was by far the biggest threat against an evenly matched team. But I guess you didn't know that either.

[Houston009]

Den was fairly exhausting. I had to run in a circle around a wall avoiding melee until the melee on my team killed their healer. So what were you saying about melee again?

I can assure you healers need vitality gear to survive. I'm not going to bother replying to the rest of that foolishness.

As a healer, I am the one being targeted by melee and caster DPS for the entire match. Melee hurt, interrupt everything, stun me, and have enough defense to avoid being peeled. Casters don't interrupt me, have cast times, easily peeled, and their LB's are marked on the freaking ground before they even hit.

Casters are a much bigger threat than melee are. In the Den they changed it to 1Range/1Melee because SMN/BLM or 'SMN/SMN' or BLM/BLM were the most op comps in existence.

I love how you only mention kiting melees and act like the range dps doesn't even exist lol. Probably because you can't kite range.
And if you are only kiting no wonder you hate melees, no CCs not even Fluid aura?

Healers don't need Vitality gear to survive LB, just stop being bad. <.<

Both Melee and Casters interrupt you, your comments are completely biased.

Melees have stuns (short duration), and Fetter Ward (Ninjas,Paladins, and Warriors do not) which last for like 10s and is on a lengthy CD. After Fetter Ward is gone they are easily peeled (meaning Ninja,Paladin,and Warrior are very easily peeled ALL the time).

Casters are the main ones for peeling. AoE Sleep/Bind and Heavy (that destroys melees). Their LB is marked on the ground after 30% of the cast has already started and is long range. Do you know what peeling is?

I play every job and I see all the pros and cons they endeavor.

[MirielleLavandre]

But....isn't that why they're called 'ninja'...the sneaky, sneaky assassin type job? If you played WvWvW in GW2, you'll remember that thieves are even worse there, especially the dagger/dagger ones that used to be able to totally kill someone from stealth before they even had time to react. At least in FF14 they aren't that bad. I don't want a nerf to anything, actually -- people who like to play PvP can usually adapt to whatever the developer throws at them and still have fun, or switch jobs to whatever job it is annoying them to get a different perspective. I was getting killed left and right by thieves in GW2 -- so, I made one, learned how they play, and then went back to elementalist with a far greater knowledge of how to counter them. Going to do the same thing here -- play my healer or bard until I grasp the dynamics of fights, then go back to ninja and use that knowledge however best I can ^_^v

[Domira]

Don't forget P/D thief...they are just notorious!

[Atreus]

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Droppin' the knowledge nukes.

[hallena]

Casters are a much bigger threat than melee are. In the Den they changed it to 1Range/1Melee because SMN/BLM or 'SMN/SMN' or BLM/BLM were the most op comps in existence.

They were the most op comp in existance because sleep lasted for 30 second, swift flare was insane, Smn could ressurect people, They could spam heavy and their pet would interupt the healer. All of which has been nerfed. Welcome to 2.5 i hope you enjoyed your 2.1 private server

I love how you only mention kiting melees and act like the range dps doesn't even exist lol. Probably because you can't kite range

No but you can interupt and LoS them easily. Find any sort of pillar or wall and eos/regen will outheal any form of damage a blm/smn can dish on you. The exception being bard, which i agree are annoying to deal with

Healers don't need Vitality gear to survive LB, just stop being bad. <.<

Right because getting good permanently reduce damage taken by 50%

Both Melee and Casters interrupt you, your comments are completely biased.

casters have casting time, can't attack while moving and cannot interupt when they are being interupted. Melee's attacks are instan. Have shorter GCD and in many case have OffGCD attacks

Melees have stuns (short duration), and Fetter Ward (Ninjas,Paladins, and Warriors do not) which last for like 10s and is on a lengthy CD. After Fetter Ward is gone they are easily peeled (meaning Ninja,Paladin,and Warrior are very easily peeled ALL the time).

I like how you are completely ignoring gap closer and ranged attack which can be used to interupt casts/heals aswell as silences which silence through surecast and equanimity

[Red_Wolf]

smarts

LOL, thank you hallena. I'll reply to but not to step on your toes. Mainly because I just typed all this out and some people need to get a clue.