Well Square, you really messed up this patch (PvP-wise)

[DividedSky]

I garauntee if you put an entire alliance of melee up against one of these blm parties the melee would win hands down if they charged in. Its not squares fault. They can't predict how players choose to play. Try zerging from behind. Try caping op in a small group. There are so many ways to change these fights without blaming se. I think the problem is lack of creativity from the mindless zerg

[Domira]

You only further illustrate the large issue that exists between melee and blm/smn in slaughter. You are essentially saying that melee requires voice coordination to beat ranged casters. And lets be realistic, you can't expect random players (most who don't even listen to simple things) to be able to run a coordinated melee train in slaughter. Furthermore, why doesn't range have to have the same requirements? Why aren't they required to coordinate?

That's right. All they have to do is sit back in a zerg full of players, pick a target and aoe the target and everyone around that target. No coordination required.

[DividedSky]

What game are you playing? I see blms coordinate LBs on a daily basis and complexly dominate other teams. The only reason you don't see this with melee is simply because people see the high damage at the end o the match and say hey i wanna do that! The root cause o the imbalance is cometeor. Other than that I don't think there is any problem. If people tried going all melee I garaunte it would work.

[DividedSky]

Also why are you saying these are "requirements" our discussion here is purely based on player behavior not the game mechanics or requirements. Again she can't control player behavior the game itself is perfectly fine except for mage lb.

[Domira]

Playing a caster doesn't require much coordination, if any. If all the enemies are bunched up most of the time, and one of your casters uses their LB. How difficult is it to see the huge blue aoe icon on the floor and then use your LB in the same spot or a close spot? Come on man, lets not be silly here.

I'm being realistic, I'm not pulling a "what if". Because I already know that a vast majority of players in FL do not listen. What you are saying would require listening, aka voice coordination. Especially since the vast majority of melee damage is single target. Everyone including the healer would have to understand what they need to do. Again, not happening.

[DividedSky]

The good news is that they're adjusting cometeor cast time so people can dodge it more easily and balance shall be restored!

[Domira]

The good news is that they're adjusting cometeor cast time so people can dodge it more easily and balance shall be restored!

Man, I don't even think I can dodge the LB3 caster skill. I get hit regardless of how fast I moved out of it. Interesting enough, I don't have any lag. So I don't know what the deal is.

[Welsper59]

Man, I don't even think I can dodge the LB3 caster skill. I get hit regardless of how fast I moved out of it. Interesting enough, I don't have any lag. So I don't know what the deal is.

That's because it's not working as intended right now, which results in it being cast much faster than it should. It'll likely still be a relatively quick cast (maybe 2 sec instead of 0.5-1sec) but it'll hopefully be much easier to dodge, even if you're in the dead center of it, if you react immediately. As is, if it were to cast properly and not at the speed it currently does, it's not that difficult to run out of it. That is, if you're not CC'd at the time lol.

[Stormrider]

I am not sure how coordinated blms are. Just watch who they are targeting. As a healer I stand a little farther out to the middle and i have been hit by 7 different caster lbs. They only do 2k time your spells and gear and just heal through it. Most melee no not to move that close they will get stunned and eaten alive. Which serves the second purpose of being out a bit.

[Sanghelios]

Slaughter mode is only good for farming EXP and Wolfs marks since matches don't take that long but the actual gameplay sucks.

Yea, thats actually what i think about Slaughter in general aswell.