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  1. #21
    Player Buff_Archer's Avatar
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    That's good to hear. One way to look at it is- the daily roulette bonus is to fill instances where there's a need, and now that there are 2 Frontline modes it's about more than getting PVE-only focused players to break out of their mold and give FL a try; it's also about incentivizing players who might otherwise favor one form of Frontlines over another to be available in both types (Secure and Slaughter) so that players who wish to do one or the other in particular can do so.

    While this update is in the concept/design phase, I can tell you know how the vast majority of PVP players would want to see the rewards structured:

    -If < max PVP rank- Daily PVP Exp and Wolfmark bonus
    - If = max PVP rank- Larger Wolfmark bonus (to compensate for the lack of bonus exp)

    This is in line with the low level roulette reward structure- experience and currency when there is experience to be gained, and a larger amount of currency when that is the only reward.
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  2. #22
    Player Buff_Archer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawnie View Post
    im seriously considering switching data centres for frontlnes only even with the new frontlines im lucky if it pops up after 90mins ._.
    I'd perhaps try swapping GC's first, if you think waiting 15 days to change back again if you change your mind is less drastic than losing the house & social network with a server move. If you go to Wolf's Den and see players in other GC's you can ask them what their queues are like. Varying demand from people amongst the 3 GC's is the main reason for the disparate queue times. On Primal for example, it seems like Maelstrom has the long 'DPS queue' and Adders the 'Tank/Healer' queue if you were to compare this with PVE queueing. At night I probably wait 10-15 minutes at most to get in.
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  3. #23
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    Spawnie Lionheart
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    yeah ill prolly try that soon since its frustrating all i want is the mounts then ill be a happy little camper lol ;/
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  4. #24
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    Adell Raynes
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    Yes, please. Additional pvp exp!
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  5. #25
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    Leinas Kroma
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    Ragnarok
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    Armorer Lv 90
    Fast reply! Gorgeous and thank you!

    I hope they implement a PvP exp and Wolf Mark bonus only if you win or achieve the 2nd place, I won't see the leechers join don't care about the win, so if you a little interested i nthe reward you will do it until you don't get a win or a 2nd place.
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  6. #26
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    Garu Dyne
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I am so excited to get marks from this and I will actually have a reason to do roulette once this is implemented! I usually cap tomes from my usual games so the bonus tomes don't do much for me but more marks are always welcome! Gearing up everything for PvP makes my mark wallet empty out too fast. x_x DRG/BLM/SMN are next!
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    Last edited by zeopower6; 01-29-2015 at 09:45 PM.

  7. #27
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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    So...sorry for the necro, but two months later and still no word on this? I have several PVE-oriented raidmates who would be more interested in PVPing if they didn't have to do dozens of matches just to upgrade a single skill, or spend upwards of several months just to be able to equip the cool-looking gear. :S Even if the new roulette only puts certain players in the queue one time a day for the relatively quick EXP bonus, that's still one more match that gets pushed along a little faster. I'd really, REALLY like to hear a definitive answer on whether or not there is going to be SOME kind of PVP bonus given out for...y'know, our PVP roulette.
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  8. #28
    Player Buff_Archer's Avatar
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    Yeah, I don't even bother with Frontlines roulette unless it's Sunday/Monday and I realize I have a way to go to cap poetics, and then it's only reluctantly because it means I'm probably going to get a Slaughter match, and being in Twin Adders on Primal that means I have no chance of winning because more of them suck at Slaughter than not. A lot of the things that don't work well play off each other- the GC Restriction means I'm going to get assigned to a losing alliance if I do Slaughter mode, and since roulette would have a better chance at putting me in Slaughter mode than me queuing for Secure only (0% chance at Slaughter!)... I simply don't queue for roulette. And for all the players sitting in queue waiting on it to pop, they're going to have to keep waiting on someone other than me. And besides doing roulette means you can only go solo which hurts your chances greatly in Slaughter especially making it all the more undesirable.

    - Add a Wolfmark bonus, and I'd use roulette at least once daily. I can always use more Wolfmarks for i110 gear/accessories. There should be a larger Wolfmark bonus for people at max PVP rank, and a smaller Wolfmark bonus + PVP exp bonus for those below max PVP rank.
    - Get rid of GC restriction and I'd even use roulette as it stands now to get faster matches. But for me GC Restriction + Primal Twin Adder + Slaughter Mode = wasting time waiting on a match that will be a very frustrating loss.

    * I really don't need Soldiery anymore, and those that do are usually people working on relics who might or might not care about PVP. If you're in one of the minority GC's on your data server, your alliance will be more probably heavily weighted with people who just rouletted in for Soldiery because we simply don't have as many full/partial premades out there queuing up into our alliance.
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    Last edited by Buff_Archer; 03-20-2015 at 10:45 PM.

  9. #29
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    Sir Taint
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    Behemoth
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    The bonus needs to be large and equal for everyone.

    The reason most people don't PvP is they can not level up fast enough. The grind to 45 should not take 100 times longer then leveling a job to 50.
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  10. #30
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    Blubbers Ubbers
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    Faerie
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    I like the idea of a marks + exp bonus when you're sub rank 45, and once you hit max rank it gives 1.5x the marks. This encourages rank 45 people to keep queuing to gear up alts while also helping new people rank up more quickly.
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