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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayonnegg View Post
    You get them from desynthing ST gear too. I got 2 from... can't remember which piece. Belt maybe? Can't remember.

    Anyway the new tools, is that purely gated behind GC seals, or are there other ways to obtain moonstones and such?
    You can craft stuff to turn in to seals. I think that was the aim of how you can do it solely through crafting.
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    Tesla Silvermane
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayonnegg View Post
    You get them from desynthing ST gear too. I got 2 from... can't remember which piece. Belt maybe? Can't remember.

    Anyway the new tools, is that purely gated behind GC seals, or are there other ways to obtain moonstones and such?
    The Ixal Deliverance daily quest now awards a moonstone.
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    Kendrik Sergio
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    Leatherworker Lv 50
    Has anyone considered that the missing CP on the apron might be a bug? At least according to the patterns I recall. When comparing the 4 star artisan crafts with the AF sets:

    Hands:
    AF nq: 2 cp / 27 control
    AF hq: 3 cp / 31 control
    Art nq: 2 cp / 29 control
    Art hq: 3 cp / 33 control

    Shoes:
    AF nq: 3 craft / 27 control
    AF hq: 3 craft / 31 control
    Art nq: 3 craft / 29 control
    Art hq: 3 craft / 33 control

    Pants:
    AF nq: 3 craft / 27 control
    AF hq: 3 craft /31 control
    Art nq: 3 craft / 29 control
    Art hq: 3 craft / 33 control

    Chest:
    AF nq: 2 cp / 27 control / 81 craft
    AF hq: 3 cp / 31 control / 92 craft
    Art nq: 0 cp / 29 control / 89 craft
    Art hq: 0 cp / 33 control / 101 craft

    Theory Art nq: 2 cp / 29 control / X craft (lacking info)
    Theory Art hq: 3 cp / 33 control / X + Y craft
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kendrik View Post
    Has anyone considered that the missing CP on the apron might be a bug? At least according to the patterns I recall. When comparing the 4 star artisan crafts with the AF sets:
    CP is missing on purpose. To disallow Full Meld possible on chest.


    Theory Art nq: 2 cp / 29 control / X craft (lacking info)
    Theory Art hq: 3 cp / 33 control / X + Y craft
    CP is missing on purpose. To disallow Full Meld possible on chest. And NQ won't do it. Not possible this time. The gap between NQ and HQ alone in craftsmanship and control is already 3 needed slot in a NQ chest to match with HQ stats.
    If it is a bug however >.> SE...y u do dis?
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    Kendrik Sergio
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    Bug implies that the why would be something along the lines of "we reviewed it, expected it to be there and saw what we expected instead of what was there".
    Generally as I've been looking at things the difference between melding the AF sets and melding the 4 star Artisan pieces has been two parts. A) 3 slots instead of 2 slots making it easier and B) somewhat larger materia. Considering that the inherent craft on the chest looks a little higher than I would guess and it perfectly fits 3 IV craft materia and because this is a "high end" crafting piece.... it just looks like a bug to me.
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    Derek Hale
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    Im' Just getting into 4star (Finish ed melding MY offhand yesterday xD)
    Should I go for the Apron, or the gown? <__<

    Crafted artisan is still BiS, right?
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    Red Cork
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defteros View Post
    Im' Just getting into 4star (Finish ed melding MY offhand yesterday xD)
    Should I go for the Apron, or the gown? <__<

    Crafted artisan is still BiS, right?
    I personally got the gown for now, at least until prices settle down. Craft Comp IV materia shot up to 500k-700k on my server. I'm really in no mood to spend an extra 1.5 million for stats I really do not need immediately. Of course, if you can afford the first day markup, and/or have the materia on hand, the apron does have a better stat cap.

    I also got the gown for glamour, for when I get around to getting an apron for myself. It's much cheaper, and looks a lot better than a potato sack.
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    Baopee Dhen
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    I melded craftsmanship +18 control +4 Cp +3 on artisan's chest, my stat is 463/413/355 without food

    with Lucis 494/427/355 without food
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    Last edited by baopee; 01-31-2015 at 04:27 PM.

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