Who is hyped for Lucis!

[lvicious]

It would just be nice if something was worth more than just an achievement and not taken away after alot of time spent getting it in such short amount of time by the devs. Not everyone values achievements that much. That's just how the game is though.. very little value is placed on anything long term vs 11 but we get a ton of new content in short periods of time. I could care less about the ironworks achievement.. I'd much rather have a ebisu type rod that really means something that you can take pride in and show off to others for a long period of time.. tough to get worth equipping. But Yoshi doesn't place importance on longterm value which is good and bad I guess on top of his disdain for fishing as is.

example: buddy who just spent a ridiculous amount of time on the ironworks rod and just got it is livid today that it amounts to well .. nothing. An achievement only he will see. I guess there is a little pride in there somewhere and fun catching the fish but I am in no hurry anymore to finish that now. Hope this new rod last at least until Summer.

[LineageRazor]

So the Lucis IS a step up from Ironworks, rather than an alternate progression. So very sad. I guess I shouldn't be TOO surprised, though; this IS the same company that brought crafters and gatherers achievement main-hands that were practically identical to existent main-hands and just as quickly rendered obsolete.

I got my Ironworks Rod just last week. I STILL haven't gotten my Rod of the Luminary (though I'm pretty darned close...).

[desufin]

The Luminary tools and rod has a purpose though as they look similar to the AF main hand but gold colored. Basically they have a glamour purpose and the goal of getting them has always been quite a heavy stretch. I wouldn't compare them at all to Ironworks (especially not since FSH does have its own Luminary Rod as well).

[chidarake]

I was working towards ironworks but now it will be at a much slower pace since its no longer bis.. I still want to finish the challenge of catching all those fishies.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

I'd figured the purpose of the Artisan's and the Ironworks would be for your Fishing Retainer, now.

Since you'll keep the best for yourself, giving the retainer the second best available only makes sense (unless said second-best is called for as part of a hand in to get the best).

[Espritduo]

My fishing retainer can already hit the new Rank XVI ventures with the Supra rod, so Ironworks isn't even good for that. :/

EDIT: Although since I'll need to turn in the supra rod to get the lucis, I guess I will need to give her the Ironworks, so eh...I guess it does work out in the end.

[Gallus]

Guys guys...stop the riot...maybe they release 100 big fish more in the expansion and we have a new achievement called "catch 200 big fish"...and then you get an i110 rod, that could actually happen. Whatever new they release in fishing, you know you won't have to catch up because you've done the outdated work already.

[lvicious]

Yeah that would probably cause even more complaints. Yoshi really does not need to be spamming new tools and another one for the expansion would be ridiculous. I thought they were going to do the same thing when I did all the work in 1.0 for my luminary and... nothing cept glamour. You can have the opposite effect if you push people to complete a task then more or less tell them.. ok thanks now throw it away. Albeit, this new rod is pretty easy to get this time around. The Clams will take a bit but the rest is easy.

I agree though that the percentages are high for Yoshi to do that again with big fish. I feel he sees the ironworks as a filler funsy rod to get you into big fishing while they keep the focus on the supra's, luci's and so on. Just like they do for doh. That will probably always be the primary focus for new tools and gear.

He just wanted people to have a goal to work towards focusing on big fish otherwise it is kind of a waste except for a few fish that are worth some gil and your personal achievement. Think of it as an extended selbina fishing contest except everyone gets the prize and it takes a lot longer.

[HamHammy]

I've been steadily working towards the Ironworks rod for a while now (still a ways off after many tens of hours and tons of gil). They should have made it a requirement for the Lucis in my opinion. I'm all for new shiny things, it just seems that the treadmill is resetting far too quickly. I really enjoy fishing, but this patch has definitely demotivated me.

[HamHammy]

very little value is placed on anything long term.. I'd much rather have a ebisu type rod that really means something.

QFT /10 char.