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    Ya this is something that's been way overdue. Obviously if they allowed full party to queue, it would likely make low level stuff even harder to get into solo. So like what others have said, its likely best to limit it to one friend. It's either that or come up with some expensive/complex system that allows a dungeon to over fill in the event a newbie is attempting to queue. You could design something that would let a extra person join in if they met certain criteria. Like if its their first time or been waiting a hour. And it wouldn't really effect the balance of the dungeon. Sense most newbies barely know what they are doing. And sense the dungeons are level synced its not like the 4 experienced people are going to steam roll it. I know special considerations will need to be in place, to prevent immediate vote/kick. Overfilling dungeons with new people would probably fix a lot of the queuing problems. But would be hard to make it work. They'd likely have to come up with a way to scale mob HP based on the number of players. That would require overhauling all dungeons, so its likely not worth there time/money. Like I said complex, and likely would never happen.

    I'm in the same boat with my significant other. It was a real pain with expert/high level when roulette was introduced. Me and the fiancé would always be doing dungeons together farming for gear. Then when roulette came out, that was the way to get things faster, so we were forced to do it separately. But then they heard the cries and made it so we could queue together. I was surprised it was possible to full party queue, but happy nonetheless. It would be nice if they could make all of the roulette's possible to queue together. Just limit it, especially in main story and trials. Me and my fiancé are a WAR and WHM respectfully so us going in to dungeons(see actually wanting to...) would certainly help out those DPS that are drooling on their keyboards waiting on low-lv, main scenario, and trials.
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    Last edited by Drako; 01-21-2015 at 10:45 PM.

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    I think the ability to queue with a party of 2 or 3 players is all that it needs, because the system still can get one or two randoms that (maybe) are really on need.

    Roulette bonus for a party of 4, I don't see anything useful, that bonus on low level is meant to let help solo queued players progression and shares nothing with expert or high level bonuses.
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    My take on this is that it seems a majority of the time DPS are being forced to wait 30 minutes or longer to get into a dungeon that they're gated by for Story, but the idea of having 2 people pre-form parties is a good idea. It saves on the problem of people having to wait for who knows how long(even though other DoH and DoL classes can be worked on in the meantime while they wait) provided they party with a Tank.

    I don't know what it's like on other servers, though, but from what I've read here it sounds like a majority of servers have high DPS times due to the amount of DPS classes, I'm guessing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Even that is highly abusable. Party a level 50 with a level 15, queue for roulette, bing you got Satasha.

    Maybe you should only be able to queue in a premade with people of equal level to yourself?
    How does sastasha give you an advantage. I cant imagine anything more boring than being level synced to level 16.
    How is that abuse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth View Post
    Nope. The minimum level is 16, so only Tam Tara is possible as well.
    Ahh, you're right. Still, Satasha or TTD, lol. Easy mode.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara1 View Post
    How does sastasha give you an advantage. I cant imagine anything more boring than being level synced to level 16.
    How is that abuse?
    Satasha is boring yes but it's also incredibly easy. It beats the hell out of ending up in Aurum Vale with 3 new people for the same amount of tomes. It lets you avoid Cutter's Cry, DD, and SV which all can be pretty miserable.
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 02-01-2015 at 05:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Ahh, you're right. Still, Satasha or TTD, lol. Easy mode.



    Satasha is boring yes but it's also incredibly easy. It beats the hell out of ending up in Aurum Vale with 3 new people for the same amount of tomes. It lets you avoid Cutter's Cry, DD, and SV which all can be pretty miserable.
    sastasha also takes too long and gets old really fast
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    sastasha can be speedrun'd around 20 minutes. That's alright for a low level dungeon imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinuko View Post
    sastasha can be speedrun'd around 20 minutes. That's alright for a low level dungeon imo.
    tam is like 3 times faster
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    Quote Originally Posted by aisustrong View Post
    tam is like 3 times faster
    So you are saying you can speedrun tam in 6 minutes? I would like to see that.
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    Here it come the real reason a good numberof people wants party low level dungeons: exploit the in need bonus, and don't care at all helping the progressing players.

    party of 4: /notsigned
    party of 3: /doubt
    party of 2: /greenlit
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