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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    and the people against them think the same of your post. that makes your opinion just as relevant. in fact yours is less relevant considering the people against it are the people that actually do crafting mostly in the game and actually enjoy it.
    Yeah all 5 of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roll View Post
    Yeah all 5 of them.
    oh yeahhhhhhh nice intelligent response. i can name off alot more than that on my little server that only does crafting and wouldn't touch the battle system. keep trying to convince yourself of that though and once day maybe even you will believe it.
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    Yeah all 5 of them.
    QFT.

    The complainers, at least to me, are people who are used to the current system, and don't want it to change for fear of either new competition, sudden realization that all their time has been wasted for naught, or have somehow forced themselves to find the complexity of it all 'fun' and 'rewarding' and don't want it dumbed down. Or some combination of these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denmo View Post
    QFT.

    The complainers, at least to me, are people who are used to the current system, and don't want it to change for fear of either new competition, sudden realization that all their time has been wasted for naught, or have somehow forced themselves to find the complexity of it all 'fun' and 'rewarding' and don't want it dumbed down. Or some combination of these.
    That's what I'm thinking. I know there's a lot of Crafters that put in a lot of hard work getting to where they are now and I sympathize with them but the way the system is now drives people away from crafting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roll View Post
    That's what I'm thinking. I know there's a lot of Crafters that put in a lot of hard work getting to where they are now and I sympathize with them but the way the system is now drives people away from crafting.
    you mean bottin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denmo View Post
    QFT.

    The complainers, at least to me, are people who are used to the current system, and don't want it to change for fear of either new competition, sudden realization that all their time has been wasted for naught, or have somehow forced themselves to find the complexity of it all 'fun' and 'rewarding' and don't want it dumbed down. Or some combination of these.
    Anyone else find it amusing how we've seen 70+ pages on the topic (between all threads) and some people still post the exact same thing as they did on like page 1?
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    Last edited by Aeyis; 08-20-2011 at 05:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roll View Post
    Yeah all 5 of them.
    While I actually think these proposed changes are generally good - I don't think you make your argument stronger by calling down people who disagree.

    I can understand why people might be unhappy with the changes, especially if crafting is all they generally do. It will probably take some of the immersion out of it.

    While it is frustrating to need 72 different items synthed together by 5 different crafts in 10 different ways to make a Acton (I once spent 3 hours shouting for crafters, scouring the wards and generally making myself crazy to get a Canvas Acton for myself) - the complexity of it is satisfying for some people.

    It is like if dungeons were made "simpler" by getting rid of all the side rooms and strategy... so you just zoned in and fought the last boss. It might be more "convenient" but a lot of people might think it was not as fun.

    /shrugs.

    So yeah. I generally like the suggested changes but I have sympathy for those who don't.
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    stop protesting the changes! I like these changes and I cant wait for them~
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    I was just kidding man it's called a joke.
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    ZOMG the power of CHEESE!!! 8-O
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