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    FPS problem

    Good evening everyone, so today i tryed to run the game for the first time, didnt try benchmark, my specs are
    Intel i7 -4500U
    8GIG ram
    Intel HD 4000+Radeon HD 8870, somehow, it does shows R9 M270x in device manager after installing drivers....
    i know cpu is quite bad, but while im ingame it uses about 20% of the cpu. and ingame i cant choose radeon card as it only shows intel HD. when i used power saving mode in catalyst control center, i get about 13 FPS on normal settings, and if i use high performance mode i get about 17-23FPS, thats still quite unplayable, just wondering might it be becouse of my slow CPU? graphic card seems OK for the game but could it be not working or something like that?
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    Guessing it is a laptop? If it is a laptop, they should have a utility in your systray that will allow you to set how 3D applications are managed. You may need to set a specific profile for the game to make sure it runs it on the 3D chip and not the Intel. The 8870m isn't the greatest (and the 8870m/R9 270x is a bit lower on the scale), but it should be enough to run the game around 30 FPS with the lower graphics options set (maybe start with the laptop defaults, and adjust settings from there as needed).
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    If that laptop GPU is equivalent to an R9 270x it will run max @1080p close to 40 FPS average.

    Run the game in windowed with Catalyst open to see the gpu usage.

    It does sound like it's running off the intel gpu.

    That cpu will run the game easily completely maxed.
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    hey, thanks for your replies, well CCC application monitoring tool shows high performance on FF11.exe

    here is what i got from 3dmark results not sure if its allright
    http://postimg.org/image/mjir513lz/
    http://postimg.org/image/4v2iifivj/

    and here is GPU-Z information
    http://postimg.org/image/t2w0ac3sp/

    Edit: made a scan in dell website also
    http://postimg.org/image/qzk55eavp/ seems like no errors, but it didnt check VGA....

    Edit2 : this is a furmark test+gpu Z on
    http://postimg.org/image/7f62lzr85/

    and the clock speeds seems diffrent....
    http://postimg.org/image/62g7u23p5/
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    Sounds about right for the way it is configured. The slower clock rates and 128bit bus are holding it back. My GTX 670MX is about 2 years or so older, but runs 192-bit and the clocks are about double yours, so it scores about 2/3 higher on the same benchmarks. By turning off some of the eye candy, I can run right up to 60 FPS most anywhere unless it is extremely crowded, in which case it can dip down into the 40's, occasionally just under 40--but, that could be due to differences in our CPU and system ram as well (swapped in low CAS DDR3 1600 Hyper-X chips--think they were CAS9 if I remember right).

    Dell may have choked the clocks down to avoid thermal issues, not that unusual to see in laptops. You may be able to tweak them with the proper tools, but be aware of the risks involved before doing so. Otherwise, you may be able to help improve frame rates by turning off/reducing some of the more intensive features that could be straining things a bit. Run it as lean as you can without making it look "ugly" (even with the lowest detail settings it doesn't look too bad, but the jaggies and pop-ins of distant objects can get to you sometimes). Just depends on how much you can live with I guess.
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    well i really doubt about dell setting the clocks, as all of the people with same laptops are scoring twice in 3dmark, i would understand if they would score x0.25 or like x0.3 more but its twice and even higher, even if i set graphics to almost lowest possible i still get low FPS, i had less problems with my GF 540M thats scoring like 3 times less than this AMD. i got a few bluescreen errors yesterday, and after restart the AMD graphic card was gone from device manager and whole catalyst center was gone, after the next restart they appear again..... i guess thats the hardware problem, but is there any possible way to check that 100%?
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    You can use BlueScreenViewer to get more info on what caused the blue screen error.
    It should help you narrow down driver vs hardware issues.
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    Can't edit on my phone but comparing those GPUZ screenies, the AMD frequencies are at 0 while the intel are normal.
    I don't think the amd gpu is working.

    On your 3D Mark test you should be getting over 3k like that one large graph.
    "Similar System Scores"
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    hey again, and thanks for the help, im not really good on debugging that information, here is the image
    http://postimg.org/image/70ovvvrvt/
    does it tells anything to you? accroding to microsoft first one is 0xC0000005: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION
    A memory access violation occurred. (Parameter 4 of the bug check is the address that the driver attempted to access.)
    im still not really good at debuging of this informations as im not a professional.
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    Okay. Reading through this sorta fast, at work, you have to turn off the the Dell forcing the Intel HD on board GPU in the Bios. http://en.community.dell.com/support...519/t/19586281
    Now, it's an older thread but, it will explain the issue you are having. As soon as I saw this thread I had an idea that was your problem. This is why LTs are not the best for gaming. Sure, you can have dedicated GPUs blah b;ah blah but, when they crap the bed, you're S.O.L. for replacing them.
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