We Need A Return Of Players Polls

[darkstarpoet1]

we are seeing alot of changes in this game and we all are finding some good and some bad in each of these. i would like to officially ask for them to once again change back to using players polls to determine the direction of the game. who is going to be able to tell them more of what changes people want than the people that are actually playing the game?

there is no discussion that they can have in there that is going to allow them inside our minds to see what we want nor what we enjoy. we have had too much hiding behind that one question that was put over a half year ago and feel it's time to get back to asking people what they want.

there's been many changes that are causing me to watch people that have been in game since day 1 to leave and i feel if the people thought they had more input that may decrease.

i just feel that if they had like a monthly poll and said they had considered this or that change and asked the people what their opinion of was then we would stop having such a major blowback against each single change made. in other words i may dislike a change(like auto attack for example), but since the majority did vote for it i'd see i was in the minority and that the change was done for the overall good of the game.

all i am asking for is them returning to use players polls before making major game changing decisions to get the players responses.

[Black_Rose]

there was a vote for auto attack?
didn't they decide on that to have a more easy to balance battle system, and state that they might think about giving us manual attacks back when everything is done?

anyways, player polls on common things are ok, like what do ppl enjoy less, what more.
but there shouldn't be polls on content, or latest additions.

in less words, SE should work on their own a little, instead of just listening and acting.

[Chardrizard]

I might misread what you say but you can't have monthly polls and expect fast updates, it doesn't work that way, Planning and development project on this size takes times.

[Alcide]

I agree that a new poll is neede, when the previouse one was done a small percentage of the players really tried the game enough to give a valid feedback, I really doubt the same people would give the same answers now.
I myself have changed my mind on several things.

[Rinsui]

I might misread what you say but you can't have monthly polls and expect fast updates, it doesn't work that way, Planning and development project on this size takes times.

But it gives people the impression that SE is at least interested in what the community thinks.
And helps prevent endless discussions about "what most players think" in said community.

[Arcell]

So you want more polls so people here can complain more when the majority votes against what they want?

Honestly the dev team needs to listen but take all suggestions with a grain of salt. Any suggestion made should be heard and potentially considered if they think it has merit to actually make the game better. They're professional game developers, they generally know what they're doing. Yoshida has a vision for the game and while you may not agree with it, FFXIV is his game now.

Would you honestly be happy if the game's direction was left to the majority's choice? IIRC Mega Man Legends 3 was developed that way and it didn't go too well for them.

[Abriael]

No. We don't. Game development isn't ad should never be a democratic process. The first wave of polls was already a bad idea (and little more than a marketing ploy anyway). We don't need any more random internet nonames with tunnel vision and zero bird-eye view dictating where a game should go (or thinking that they are). That's game a developer's job.

Seriosly, if you think that "the crowd" is a good decision maker (even more so in something as specific as the development of a MMORPG), you need a reality check. Urgently.

[Alcide]

No. We don't. Game development isn't ad should never be a democratic process. The first wave of polls was already a bad idea (and little more than a marketing ploy anyway). We don't need any more random internet nonames with tunnel vision and zero bird-eye view dictating where a game should go (or thinking that they are). That's game a developer's job.

Seriosly, if you think that "the crowd" is a good decision maker (even more so in something as specific as the development of a MMORPG), you need a reality check. Urgently.

I agree with you, still the choices the devs are making are based on that poll, so if we really have to follow one IMHO we need a poll that's really valid.

[Abriael]

I agree with you, still the choices the devs are making are based on that poll, so if we really have to follow one IMHO we need a poll that's really valid.

Do you really think so? That poll was little more than a marketing ploy, and a poorly devised one to begin with. It's fairly easy to see how little influence it had on the the design of this game. Thankfully, I would add.

Besides, there's *no way* to have a poll that's "really valid" on a MMORPG, you have absolutely no control on the respondent demographics, and no way to ensure that they'll be a valid representation of the playerbase, and even more so of the playerbase you don't yet have but you want to attract.
This without even mentioning the fact that the minority (and extremely small miority) of the playerbase has bird's eye view necessary to make any kind of fair assessment on what something as complex as a MMORPG needs. Most random internet goes will just ask for what's convenient of easy at first sight instead of asking for what's balanced or necessary, voiding any kind of poll of any meaning or utility.

No.

[Alexis_Arteme]

No. We don't. Game development isn't ad should never be a democratic process. The first wave of polls was already a bad idea (and little more than a marketing ploy anyway). We don't need any more random internet nonames with tunnel vision and zero bird-eye view dictating where a game should go (or thinking that they are). That's game a developer's job.

Seriosly, if you think that "the crowd" is a good decision maker (even more so in something as specific as the development of a MMORPG), you need a reality check. Urgently.

While I agree with you, I'm pretty sure these forums would not exist today if players didn't vote hard for them. XI never got official forums, that I'm aware of.