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    /random, and the impending influx of player run casinos.

    As per the patch notes: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...1f30e41d038115

    The /random text command has been added, allowing players to randomly generate numbers in the log window.
    /random is coming, and casinos are going to happen. There will be players that both love and hate it, this much is known. But what will be SEs stance on the matter? Will it be allowed? Will it break the ToS? What's your opinion on the matter?
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    And someone will probably have a macro that makes it look like a random number has been selected but it is actually a number they chose ahead of time. Just imagine the mischief they can cause by fooling the gullible.
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    Greetings!

    Since this is certainly a concern that has been anticipated by the GMs, I can provide you some preliminary answers to your questions.

    Abuse of the /random command to flood chat can be considered a spam violation and should be reported to a GM for investigation. This can be just spamming random repeatedly in public or making offers that incite the spamming of the random command from others. If you know that you don't want to see random results, a chat filter will be added under Character Configuration > General Tab > Log Filters > Announcements > Random Number Messages. While this can certainly help people who want to activate the filter, the fact that there is a filter for random results does not mean that spamming of the random command is ok because others could just block out spam if they didn't want to be bothered by it.

    As for casinos, they are treated like trade agreements. This means that you should ensure clear rules are agreed upon in the game before engaging in this type of agreement, since the GMs can only enforce the terms of the agreement that was made in the game. So long as the agreement is upheld, the GMs should not need to get involved. If you do not feel that the agreement is upheld, you should report that to a GM for investigation for Fraud.

    While pointed out in each paragraph, I will reiterate that suspected violations of the rules should be reported to a GM for investigation, and a GM will determine if there was a violation of the rules and take appropriate action based on the results of that investigation. I hope this helps to clear up the GM position on the new feature.

    LGM Enkrateia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkrateia View Post
    Greetings!
    Thank you for the prompt and full response. It's good to know SE's stance before the implementation.

    The chat filter is especially comforting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parodine View Post
    Thank you for the prompt and full response. It's good to know SE's stance before the implementation.

    The chat filter is especially comforting.
    hello there! This might not be related to the thread but.. Rongi is waiting for you to reply in his email! so please check
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    Good point, I'll probably add Random to my Battle chat log and leave it off the rest. In general I won't care what people are around me are rolling, and if for some reason I do (like FC giving away some minions from garden or whatever) then I can just tab over. As for how it's used, anyone who advertises for casinos in Say/Shout or any other method that hits my chat log is going to simply find a spot on my blacklist... same as people who pubicly advertise in Shout for selling clears, odds are super high they're not someone I'd ever have anything to do with, so nothing lost by blacklisting them. Except for 1 of my 200 valuable blacklist slots .
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