About Kicked individuals returning to the same instance...

[Sove92]

SE said they are going to fix that, they still haven't. They said that months ago. >_>

[Neuflune]

Not really sure why people are debating this at all, the only feasible option is to make it so kicked players can't re-enter the group they were kicked from.

I agree with this.

I had the "honor" of being paired by Duty Finder with a tank who liked to verbally harass anyone in his party. One day, I was lucky enough to be partied with him again. He trashtalked me because I "couldn't heal Shiva Ex solo" and even went as far to say that "noobs should be using party finder and party up with other noobs". It was not aimed at me, but to the other healer who was new to the duty (he died so I had to heal Shiva Ex solo). Someone kicked that tank out, but then he went back in the duty which prevented us from getting another tank. The other people just gave up instead of kicking him again, because obviously he would just come back again. That's 7 people inconvenienced because some guy wanted to keep trolling us even after he was kicked.

If he had been kicked unfairly, he could file a report to SE. But for us who really didn't want him in our party for valid reasons... there was no way for us to protect our group from him because he could just go back in and troll us.

[Gunspec]

Apologies if someone has mentioned this before, but I've experienced multiple situations where kicking someone and having them rejoin was a major blessing. I remember a particular Pharos Sirius run I was doing for an Animus book, where the tank disconnected in the sewer and was auto-kicked. After waiting almost ten minutes for a new tank to join and no results, one of the dps asked to be kicked (pretty sure he would still have had an "abandon penalty" if he left manually), and that same dps immediately reentered after switching to a Paladin. We were then able to finish the dungeon.

I have had this happen probably a half-dozen times since they enabled player kicking, whereas I've only experienced a player doing it with negative intentions once.

[Neuflune]

Apologies if someone has mentioned this before, but I've experienced multiple situations where kicking someone and having them rejoin was a major blessing. I remember a particular Pharos Sirius run I was doing for an Animus book, where the tank disconnected in the sewer and was auto-kicked. After waiting almost ten minutes for a new tank to join and no results, one of the dps asked to be kicked (pretty sure he would still have had an "abandon penalty" if he left manually), and that same dps immediately reentered after switching to a Paladin. We were then able to finish the dungeon.

I have had this happen probably a half-dozen times since they enabled player kicking, whereas I've only experienced a player doing it with negative intentions once.

If he left manually, since the party is not full, he would not have a penalty. I've done the same thing: we lost tank or healer, I'd leave and join in-progress as tank or healer.