Thread: Patch 2.5 Preliminary Notes Discussion

Originally Posted by Alberel

Considering the ??? trial has an achievement for completing it called 'Secret Ascian Man' most are assuming it'll be a battle with an Ascian; likely Lahabrea or Nabriales. Given that 2.5 is the conclusion of the current main scenario arc it makes sense that we'd have a battle with one of the actual main villains rather than just another primal.

Another way to interpret it would be that the player is the secret ascian man... On the french page it was revealed the trial name is La Chrysalide (Chrysalis)... whatever that means in the context of the main story.
Crackpot theory would be that we fight Hydaelyn in that trial...

Originally Posted by Sapphic

Doubt it would be Lahabrea as the Ascian in Ishgard is firmly entrenched and set up to be in a position to pull the strings. Lahabrea had a different agenda.

Actually the scene at the end of 2.3 showed us that it was Lahabrea and Elidibus that were pulling the strings in Ishgard as it was the pair of them stood beside the Holy See. I don't actually think it will be Lahabrea in the trial though. The 2.5 story seems to be focusing a lot more on Nabriales and his personality is quite rash and impatient which suggests to me he's being set up for a fall. He'll probably be the first Ascian that we actually kill outright, whilst Lahabrea is more likely to be a long-running rival/antagonist figure.

Originally Posted by Alberel

Considering the ??? trial has an achievement for completing it called 'Secret Ascian Man' most are assuming it'll be a battle with an Ascian; likely Lahabrea or Nabriales.

Lahabrea was shown in the Before the Fall Part 2 section of the trailer, with Elidibus behind him if I remember correctly. Granted, we "killed" him before and he came back, but now that we have auracite, and the trailer also showed us using Tupsimati like the Sword of Light we used to defeat Lahabrea the first time on something (almost certainly an auracite trapping an Ascian), so I think we can safely assume that if we go and pick a fight with them we actually also have the means to put them down permanently, so I'd rule out a fight with Lahabrea.

I think Zodiark is actually a possibility... I mean... Even if Lahabrea at the end of Praetorium was actually a challenge... Mechanically it would still be an incredibly boring fight... I can't see a Trial version of it working... Plus "Mystery Trial: Generic Black Robed Villain!" is just such a boring let down...

So, I tried to read all the patch notes, but I may have missed it...

Are we getting Carbontwine and Carboncoat in WoD?

Originally Posted by ShiloEET

I'm not sure it said anything about it. They said it would be handled differently as well, but i saw nothing about it.

There was no mention of it. Yes, they mentioned that the upgrade tokens would have a separate lockout. That being said, these are the preliminary patch notes. Certainly subject to change. It is still entirely possible that we may still see these in the patch.

Wasn't there supposed to be a seperate lockout thing for the upgrade materials in WoD? ie you could choose one equipment and one upgrade material per week

Well... I called it. I knew it would happen, and it did. I'm not sure whether to pat myself on the back or just shake my head in dismay at the lunacy.

The 'roulette' is getting beyond stupid. Okay, more stupid than it was before. Yet again we see the 'expert' roulettes pushed backwards into the 'hard mode' roulettes, three new 'experts' taking their place as the only true means of earning your daily tomes of poetics (all of which need to be unlocked before you can actually DO a roulette), and making things even more of a pain in the butt for anyone working on their animus. Thanks SE... nice work.

They've made the old hag dependent on being able to complete the roulette, then effectively lock the thing out every few updates and raise the bar on the roulette to a new difficulty level. My god, by the time we hit Heavensward you'll need ilvl 150 just to get mysterious maps for your measly level 110 Novus!

I'm looking forward to the quests, but couldn't they have just added the new dungeons to a new advanced roulette or, at the very least, kept the existing ones in the same roulette tier so that we don't water down the hard mode to obscurity? Just LOOK at the number of dungeons you'll need to complete just to have access to HM roulette once this patch hits! It's ridiculous! And that's before we even consider the ITEM LEVEL necessary to do this.

Sure, I've got all jobs unlocked at 50 blah blah... but what of new players? This is utterly destructive for players still working their way through the game, something SE apparently considers unimportant.

No new trial ex .. sad

New dungeons being i90 kinda worries me. Everyone's way higher than that and I'm worried it'll be a snoozefest. I know people don't truly want 4 mans to be 'hard', but there's a balance between the two.