Measurements for DPS contributions (Please SE...)

[Elusana_Celah]

Wait what?

I meant fire 3 LOL sorry. I do that all the time >_> *edits post*

[PenutButter]

I completely disagree. This game has some strict DPS checks and it would be very helpful to know who is not pulling their weight. While I greatly discourage over-harssment from jackasses, I see absolutely nothing wrong with someone saying "Hey, sorry but we gotta replace you if you don't improve. We want to actually beat this thing." People already kick and harass others for failing mechanics, DPS check is no different. If you are too much of a pansy to handle constructive criticism than don't raid, its clearly not for you. So you want SE to make end-game raids to be so easy that it don't matter what your performance is? Yeah, a hell of a great idea that is. Contents are already getting easier and easier with every patch as it is.

Trust me, if people can clear the content even with your horrible dps, most will not care enough to complain. When they do complain, it is often justified in order to actually win.

[synesthetic]

Let us freely see and share the numbers. I'm pretty sure most people who want that info desire it for constructive purposes.
If it's used for harassment, let the people being harassed report it and punish that one person who's probably an ass with or without those numbers.

There are plenty of players who parse as is, and I haven't heard any widespread complaint that people are using that info for harassment. I'm sure someone's been a victim of it somewhere, but it's not a strong argument against parsing. Blame the person who misuses the tool, don't ban and fear the tool itself.
If there were a widespread issue about assholes judging, discriminating, kicking, rejecting, etc. then it's arguably more a problem with community management. It would mean that the game is attracting that negative kind of competitive crowd, and GMs or whatnot aren't doing anything to say that kind of behavior is not okay. Rules need enforcement to mean anything.

Most players honestly shouldn't even care about parses or whether they exist or not. There are multiple levels of content designed to appeal to a broad spectrum of players. There's content designed to challenge the minority of players that's actually interested in such a challenge (note I said "challenge", not "gear"--there's a difference, and the gear is just a nice reward for people who can meet that challenge), and some of this content has fairly strict DPS checks that require players to bring out the best of their job's potential, it'd only be fair to provide players with a means of determining whether they're doing as well as they can be in those instances at least.

[XiXiQ]

After completing the new content, which seems to be full of "do XXX dps in XX time or wipe", this tool has frankly become a must-have. Both odin and final story battle are one dps check after the other, and there are probably another half a dozen instances of the same tired old mechanic in all 3 new dungeons - I lost count I got sick of seeing it.

[LunaHoshino]

After completing the new content, which seems to be full of "do XXX dps in XX time or wipe", this tool has frankly become a must-have. Both odin and final story battle are one dps check after the other, and there are probably another half a dozen instances of the same tired old mechanic in all 3 new dungeons - I lost count I got sick of seeing it.

Couldn't agree more. On the one hand, I'm glad that the game is forcing people to learn how to play their jobs properly. On the other... it gets very tiring wiping over and over again on the same fight because your party can't meet the DPS check when you know it's not your fault.

[MistyMew]

dps tool to check ones own dps = very useful and good idea

dps tool to monitor everyones dps = terrible cesspool of an idea (since we already know what ppl WILL be like)

[AlexionSkylark]

OMG please not this again... ugh

Guys. GET OVER IT.
We are NOT getting a recount-equivalent in FFXIV. Thankfully.

Stick to your personal-use 3rd-party meters and shush about it. This is actually the best of both worlds. You can measure your own DPS, but you can't be an asshole about it.

[Elusana_Celah]

OMG please not this again... ugh

Guys. GET OVER IT.
We are NOT getting a recount-equivalent in FFXIV. Thankfully.

Stick to your personal-use 3rd-party meters and shush about it. This is actually the best of both worlds. You can measure your own DPS, but you can't be an asshole about it.

The 3rd party meters suck, don't work for everyone properly, are against TOS, non-PC users can't use them at all AND SE keeps adding DPS check content. But I presume you've read nothing in this thread before replying with your highly enlightening comment.

[Odett]

Being a good dps is not a life skill, it should not be expected but be appreciated if it happens.
The best way to deal with it is not know other peoples dps at all.

I really disagree with that. Doing DPS is your JOB. You wouldn't say that about tanks, because a tank that fails to grab an ad makes it so healers die and just snowball into the raid wiping,and a tank that cannot use defensive cooldowns effectively will be tasting the ground quite often, and the same thing with healers not healing efficiently, but you see threads about DPS being excused from their jobs time and time again. Rolling as DPS does not give you a free ride.You're not there to smell the flowers, and failing to do your job makes it that much harder for your team to win. When you have DPS races and everyone is pulling their weight minus one person, it would be nice to know. If that person realizes this and acknowledges that they could be doing better and tries to improve, that's great, but someone with an "I don't care" mentality has no part in the content you're doing, because they're setting the entire group back.

[kidvideo]

I used to be completely against DPS measurement tools cuz they could be used as 'harassment'. However I've been doing T9 practice as my black mage (I main white mage) and our DPS is really slow... and I'm like so is it something I'm doing wrong? Is it me?

How would a DPS measurement tool instruct you on your rotation? I would assume a tool would only report numbers. You need to understand your ability details & what you can access from cross class abilities.