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    Is 451 craftsmanship enough

    For 4 star crafting? I have seen other guides say 452 or 453 is the minimum for rotations. I just want to know is 451 sufficient?
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    Yes, 451 is enough. 453 is for a special rotation that uses PbP + 2 RS + 2 CS2 - whether this is better or not than the standard 451 rotations is debatable and largely up to preference.

    TL;DR - Yes.
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    *Didn't mean to put "?" at the end...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ragnargalt View Post
    *Didn't mean to put "?" at the end...
    Click the Edit button, and delete the question mark
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    Thanks Lyrinn?
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    It's enough, but (imo) not ideal.

    Not a big deal though really.
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    I use 3 RS, 2 CS2 with 454 craftsmanship. Won't work with 451. Need 3 CS2 then.
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    With the indroduction of the Lucis tools our Craftmanship has been boosted by quite a large margin (490+).

    453 was the magic number previously due to the [PBP > RS x 2 > CS2 x2] rotation which allowed us to finish a 4star synth within 5steps as well as using the least amount of CP (40 including SH2).

    With 490+ Craftmanship, is there a new rotation that improves on this? Perhaps a 4step progress? I have not tested using Shark Fin Soup or the FC Craftmanship buff. Would the use of IG2 be useful now regardless of the extra CP cost to perhaps reach a 3step progress? Can any of you pro crafters confirm?
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    Last edited by PROBOUND; 01-28-2015 at 01:14 AM.

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