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  1. #11
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    Zedd702's Avatar
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    Razai Sylvain
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    Arcanist Lv 58
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
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    Agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tex_Mex View Post
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    Well put.

    My opinion: In terms of Melee DPS I'd go MNK. It's very fun & fluid to play and a bit more forgiving on positionals than DRG was While NIN is ok IMO, I like MNK the most. I've not got to 50 DRG to give my full player experience opinion on the job, but working on it...
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    Last edited by Zedd702; 01-16-2015 at 05:30 AM.

  2. #12
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    Mardel's Avatar
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    Eru Meru
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Tex_Mex View Post
    Difficulty Level:
    MNK>NIN>DRG
    Lots of debate here... (SNIP)
    Okay, I agree with almost everything he said (for what he typed out) except the order of difficulty. The difficulty in any job is somewhat false it's usually people think of their initial learning curve/experience as the indicator that this job is hard, but I will say I've never had issues playing monk or any other dps outside learning the initial rotation. Anyone who says MNK is hard due to positional is making a mountain out of a mole hill.

    The harder class to play is ninja because regardless of positional requirements you need to be aware of your dot cycle, other people's TP, your TP, huton recast timer, back positional for trick attack, kassatsu timer, suiton/ta timer, and MUDRA LAG. Also if you cannot get in around 12-13 mudra casts in a housing area before auto-bunny then your connection is having issues and your input lag will lower your DPS and cause other potential issues like accidental bunnies. Playing Ninja at the peak performance almost feels like it requires WTFAST or other pingzapping programs that help you avoid bad routing. So mudra lag coupled with the other things you must be aware of, while playing ninja, makes the job the hardest.

    What you should play as a melee: MNK
    What you should play as a caster: BLM
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    Last edited by Mardel; 01-16-2015 at 06:08 AM.
    If whatever you're shooting doesn't die after you pump 8, 32 caliber, slugs into it, it's probably a dragon.

  3. #13
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    Korilynn's Avatar
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    J'esshica Clahne
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    All this MNK love, but didn't the polls show it to be the least loved class?
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  4. #14
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zedd702 View Post
    My opinion: In terms of Melee DPS I'd go MNK. It's very fun & fluid to play and a bit more forgiving on positionals than DRG was While NIN is ok IMO, I like MNK the most. I've not got to 50 DRG to give my full player experience opinion on the job, but working on it...
    haha yes, DRG used to be very unforgiving on positionals, but recent changes have made it much more pleasant to play with. I will eventually get around to levelling up MNK and NIN, but there is just something about jumping off screen and crashing down on an opponent that feels so good! At least until you get jump animation locked into AoE damage......
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mardel View Post

    The harder class to play is ninja ...
    Ya this always brings up a bit of debate, and I think the difficulty is just different for different players. Personally, i find the constant motion somewhat more daunting than a lot of the CD timer awareness that NIN requires. And the main reason that I believe NIN to be a bit easier is because of the simple nature of their damage rotation (excluding mudras). It is just a simple combo1 -> combo2 -> combo3 -> combo1 -> combo2 -> combo3 style that you add mudras and the one DoT ability on to.

    By comparison the main DRG rotation looks more like this:
    HT -> Combo1 -> Ph -> Combo2 -> HT -> Combo2 -> Ph -> Combo1 -> HT -> Combo 2 -> Ph -> Combo2 -> Repeat

    DRG also has a lot of their own off the GCD timers, including B4B, Invigorate, IR, jump, spineshatter dive, dragonfire dive, life surge, power surge, leg sweep, etc.

    All in all, none of the classes in this game are all that difficult to play, but I just find the combination of buffs and movement requirements of MNK to have the highest skill ceiling.
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  6. #16
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    Dash Shadow
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    Conjurer Lv 26
    Now you guys have me debating mnk or drg! Im a new player and dont have any 50s... would it be more beneficial for me to hit 50 on the war then go to an alt?
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  7. #17
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    Razai Sylvain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mardel View Post
    The harder class to play is ninja because regardless of positional requirements you need to be aware of your dot cycle, other people's TP, your TP, huton recast timer, back positional for trick attack, kassatsu timer, suiton/ta timer, and MUDRA LAG. Also if you cannot get in around 12-13 mudra casts in a housing area before auto-bunny then your connection is having issues and your input lag will lower your DPS and cause other potential issues like accidental bunnies. Playing Ninja at the peak performance almost feels like it requires WTFAST or other pingzapping programs that help you avoid bad routing. So mudra lag coupled with the other things you must be aware of, while playing ninja, makes the job the hardest.
    I disagree that NIN is the hardest to play, in comparison to the other two. This is arguably debatable. Every job has its WTF's, OOPSIES and everything else... However Mudra lag has no bearing on difficulty to play the class and furthermore is not an issue for me when playing NIN. I've experienced it and it's very easy to get down/anticipate/adapt to...

    The only thing that makes NIN a tid bit complicated to play is that I don't have enough room on my hotkeys for what I need on my rotations (PS3)... I'M a Tank and Healer at heart so anticipating when my tank needs TP, I'm usually right on time with Goad. Other than that, NIN IMO is very "leh snore" to play to me.
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  8. #18
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    RearAdmiralZill's Avatar
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    Zill Garde
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    Faerie
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Mardel View Post
    except the order of difficulty
    To be honest, difficulty is relative. What I find hard will be incredibly simple to someone else. I'd just leave the difficulty out of the equation since the OP should know what they are good and bad at. For me, I know i'd screw up mudras like nobody's business, hah.

    Tex_Mex did a great job with describing the jobs otherwise. I'm biased as MNK is my main. Take each at face value and go with what you'd want to do.
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  9. #19
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    F'yahna Mhasi
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dashadow11 View Post
    would it be more beneficial for me to hit 50 on the war then go to an alt?
    Yes. Once you get WAR to 50 any other class you level will get a 50% exp boost all the way to 50.
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  10. #20
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    Tex Mex
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    To be 100% honest with you, your first class all the way to 50 should probably be a healer or a DPS, as these roles require a lot less knowledge of the game to perform well. Now if you are a MMO veteran, and comfortable with the responsibilities of tanking, then more power to you! But I typically recommend DPS classes for peoples first 50's.

    And both MNK and DRG are great classes. I prefer DRG mostly for aesthetic reasons, but I WILL be levelling my monk soon, since I love the design of the class.
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