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  1. #11
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    Gunspec's Avatar
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    Gunspec Daggerforge
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    Ultros
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    Warrior Lv 80
    I support the idea of killing off main scenario roulette eventually. Praet and CM work well as closure to an RPG main storyline, but they were terrible ideas for an MMO. They were one-shot and done dungeons with no loot and only a few tomes from the final boss, while featuring 30 minutes of cutscenes. People either speed ran them for quick tomes back when WP and AK were the only other options, or they struggled to find a group that wanted to run them for the story. Then when first-timers dried up, SE added the roulette option so that fresh 50s that couldn't find groups would always have a chance to run it.

    But now we just have everyone speed running main scenario roulette, and the occasionally newbie doesn't get to experience the dungeon story as intended. The whole concept is broken now, but roulette remains just so those unfortunate newcomers can finish the quest. I support the idea of future 8-man story dungeons, but only if cutscenes come before queue and after final boss. It hurts both tome farmers AND newcomers any other way.
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    Last edited by Gunspec; 01-15-2015 at 05:14 PM.

  2. #12
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    Terrini Littlebottom
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I really don't get why people say a new person can't watch the cut scenes in a DF group speed running CM or Prae... I'm a Healer, WHM was my first 50, and sure I was left behind and missed a lot of the side things not related to story my first runs, but I was still able to watch all of the cut scenes. I mean it's not hard to solo heal, solo tank, or miss a DPS or two in them, so having someone dragging behind in cut scenes obviously isn't a big deal. In fact, dragging behind like that makes most of the fights fresh and new when you do roulette it XD I learnt my fights and mechanics in there in the second run.
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    ~Terra-chan~

  3. #13
    Player JayCommon's Avatar
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    Indaki Sativa
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    I know my opinion may not be very popular, but I always felt that the story mode primals should be in the main scenario part rather than the low level roulette.
    I think this is a really good idea, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was some kind of technical restriction or "problem" with this because the story mode primals require a light party and the other dungeons need a full party.

    Anyone can kill this theory if they have ever gotten the final guildhest in the guildhest roulette. That's one I have never gotten via the roulette....I can't remember the name exactly. Trinity something? Something trinity? It's the only guildhest that requires 8 players instead of 4.


    Quote Originally Posted by SekhmetM View Post
    You can only queue for Guildhests and Main Scenario Roulette as one person anyway. Parties can only do High and Expert if I recall correctly.

    I think you misunderstood me


    What I mean, is that Praetorium and CM require a full party to complete (8 people), while story mode primals only require a light party (4 people). I just meant it wouldn't surprise me if that was a problem with the duty roulette system that would cause it to not work. The two different party size options in the same queue.
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    Last edited by JayCommon; 01-15-2015 at 11:10 PM.

  4. #14
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    SekhmetM's Avatar
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    Sekhmet Mubarak
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    Cactuar
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by JayCommon View Post
    I think this is a really good idea, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was some kind of technical restriction or "problem" with this because the story mode primals require a light party and the other dungeons need a full party.

    Anyone can kill this theory if they have ever gotten the final guildhest in the guildhest roulette. That's one I have never gotten via the roulette....I can't remember the name exactly. Trinity something? Something trinity? It's the only guildhest that requires 8 players instead of 4.
    You can only queue for Guildhests and Main Scenario Roulette as one person anyway. Parties can only do High and Expert if I recall correctly.
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  5. #15
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    Aliane Redwyne
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    Shiva
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    Samurai Lv 80
    hum... main scenario quest are the stuff that requires 8 people, so I guess is separated like that so the system can roulette players of the same number of members, so, another main scenario possibility must be a story quest that requires 8 people
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