PVP and patch 2.5

**Atreus** · 01-16-2015 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by Hyrist

Just wondering how long it'll take to gear a brand new 50 to get to i80. Want to dedicate a character I have to it specifically and kinda anxious to get going. If I recall correctly, Morale raises armor to a certain ilvl above the listed now. Hopefully I can use lower-level PVP to get the tier-up equipment and just focus on getting a quick Relic until I can start pushing for more PvP centric gear.

Might seem a bit lazy, but I'm on limited time and regularly raid on top of it all. So, I'm trying to trim down my workload without harming my playmates.

If you don't mind the asking, why a separate character?

**Stormrider** · 01-16-2015 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Hyrist

Hope there's an easy way for someone who wants to PvP focus a character to get into Frontlines. My character is nearing 50 and I'm worried it's going to take a whole lot of investment just to get him ready to enter into PvP because everyone's over-geared and Wolfs Den may not have enough to players playing.

PvE gear in some slots is better then PvP gear for some stuff anyways. Also as someone on Balmung there are a few frontline/pvp shells. I believe the Adders one is the Mad Adders? I am sure one of them will pipe up. Adders have a low population so they get a lot of premades in.

**Toranja** · 01-16-2015 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by Hyrist

Hope there's an easy way for someone who wants to PvP focus a character to get into Frontlines. My character is nearing 50 and I'm worried it's going to take a whole lot of investment just to get him ready to enter into PvP because everyone's over-geared and Wolfs Den may not have enough to players playing.

That's a non-issue.

**Hyrist** · 01-16-2015 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by Toranja

That's a non-issue.

Would you please care to explain? Just want to get your thoughts/angle on this.

**Blubbers** · 01-16-2015 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by Hyrist

Would you please care to explain? Just want to get your thoughts/angle on this.

Gear doesn't have a huge impact in frontlines as long as you're using i80+. In about 15-20 matches of frontlines you can get enough wolf marks for a full set of i70 pvp gear, which translates to i80 after you add in the +10 morale that comes with it.

Some people may get upset as you're playing with lower gear while you gear up though, so that's something to consider. Helps if you go in with a full group as they won't care then (that's how i got my cousin geared up in a few hours recently).

**Hyrist** · 01-16-2015 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by Blubbers

Gear doesn't have a huge impact in frontlines as long as you're using i80+. In about 15-20 matches of frontlines you can get enough wolf marks for a full set of i70 pvp gear, which translates to i80 after you add in the +10 morale that comes with it.

Some people may get upset as you're playing with lower gear while you gear up though, so that's something to consider. Helps if you go in with a full group as they won't care then (that's how i got my cousin geared up in a few hours recently).

I'm hoping Roulette will assist me with that, but if I have to stick to Sub-50 PVPs in Wolf's Den to help get the currency I need to grab the i70 PvP Set, which was my first goal. Weapon Wise, getting a base Relic will be easy enough and my FC will more than be willing to help that far.

They'll likely use my character as a Tome pinata, which may help as well. Just charting my course for all of this. It's my namesake, Hyrist, that's going to be PvP oriented (as a Paladin).

**Accolade** · 01-16-2015 08:54 AM

Remember you have dedicated healers (hopefully), which makes being under geared negligible.
Grit your teeth for the greater good, and rack up the marks in frontlines for morale gear. Anything over ilvl80 is pointless.

It is highly unlikely that you alone would be the sole result for winning or losing, based on gear alone. If someone were to blame you personally, they have no idea about the wider picture or all the mechanics/tactics.

The transition from pve to pvp is super simple, its not like there are any aimed skill shots or alternate builds in comparison to pve. Just pop in, and treat it almost like pve (for learning the match tactics). You may have to jig a few skills around, but these are very obvious things like using shield bash often to stun lock ect.

I love to see new people, as this is the backbone of keeping pvp alive/active.
More the merrier I say, undergeared or not, its better than waiting in the god awful queues.

**Accolade** · 01-16-2015 08:54 AM

Morale will be your friend here.

As far as I remember, 1 morale = 1 gear lvl, which counts to your average and final gear level. (Correct if wrong please, its been a while.)
Low level pvp gear is very cheap, and you will probably get a few in 5-10 games.

Its respectful that you are considering yourself a burden to your team if you are ungeared, but honestly it wont matter. (in wolfden would be a different story).
There are many other players on the field that count towards the win/loss, based on many variables other than gear.

**Hyrist** · 01-16-2015 09:09 AM

Good to hear a positive opinion.

As far as looking for PvP shells on Balmung. I won't be in the Adders for my PvP Character, but the Maelstrom specifically, that's where the majority of the people in our Free Company who PvP will be Allied with.

**Blubbers** · 01-17-2015 12:16 AM

Wow the new Frontlines updates look amazing...

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...1f30e41d038115

I'm looking forward to it

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