Proposal: Earning a Novus Unlocks Zodiac Quest Dungeon Drops

[MasamuneBranford]

Obviously this is not an issue if you have previously earned at least one nexus weapon. However, I think we can all agree that it is not as easy (by easy I mean quick) to earn a nexus weapon as it once was. Number of reasons why I am making this proposal:

1) In a month or so - players will be slowing down the entire group if they are intentionally using their item level 110 novus and not their item level 130 tomestone weapon (an item level 110 weapon won't even be viable for expansion content)
2) Trial burn nexus parties are now rare to find (used to be commonplace)
3) Trial burn parties are boring as all heck

Essentially I feel that a player should be able to earn light while also attempting to earn their Zodiac dungeon drops. I think this is fair due to the fact that nexus trial burn parties are very hard to find and an item level 110 weapon is not going to be viable in expansion content. Early nexus adopters had the benefit of being able to cap tomestones / weekly content (utilizing an item level 110 weapon) without any questions being asked. Players still on the nexus stage at expansion time won't be able to use their novus for reaching weekly expansion content cap and thus will be required to spend an enormous amount of additional time earning their nexus.

[Verlyn]

I agree, but I think this should start once you reach Animus.
Misc change: Double (maybe triple!) all light rewards from completing dungeons and Crystal Tower. Let's encourage doing things other than Trial Burn parties :\. Especially if this is to help out the low levels.

[MasamuneBranford]

I agree, but I think this should start once you reach Animus.
Misc change: Double (maybe triple!) all light rewards from completing dungeons and Crystal Tower. Let's encourage doing things other than Trial Burn parties :\. Especially if this is to help out the low levels.

Not a bad idea either. I mean - even if a low level dungeon roulette gave you 50 light - that's still 40 days of low level dungeons to move up 5 item levels. I don't see the benefit of the design where a bright trial gives you as much light as majority of the dungeon runs. Makes no sense at all.

[LaylaTsarra]

Not a bad idea either. I mean - even if a low level dungeon roulette gave you 50 light - that's still 40 days of low level dungeons to move up 5 item levels. I don't see the benefit of the design where a bright trial gives you as much light as majority of the dungeon runs. Makes no sense at all.

50 light for a low level dungeon? You have to be kidding me when the most you can earn now is 16 from ST in bonus. Go earn your relic and don't expect a handout. Some of you nerf advocates are really pushing it.

[MasamuneBranford]

50 light for a low level dungeon? You have to be kidding me when the most you can earn now is 16 from ST in bonus. Go earn your relic and don't expect a handout. Some of you nerf advocates are really pushing it.

Not asking for that in the slightest. Not at all. However - if you really stop to think about it - you do 75 expert dungeon runs for a Novus. An expert dungeon goes by wayyyyy faster than a low level dungeon roulette. Novus gets you 10 item levels / nexus gives you 5. That is how I would have designed it originally (as 40 days of low level dungeon roulettes would seem more than fair for 5 item levels).

HOWEVER - because SE did not design it that way - and countless people have done the grind - I would never ask for such a nerf (would not be fair to those who did do all of the work).

[MasamuneBranford]

But one more reply. How much time do you think you would spend doing 40 low level dungeon roulettes in comparison to the trial grinds? With the duty finder wait times and the new players in the low level dungeons - you might even be faster off with the trial burns. haha - so hold your horses.

[Sapphic]

50 light for a low level dungeon? You have to be kidding me when the most you can earn now is 16 from ST in bonus. Go earn your relic and don't expect a handout. Some of you nerf advocates are really pushing it.

I wouldn't be surprised if they increase quantity of light given per run in 2.5.

[CYoung187]

I wouldn't be surprised if they increase quantity of light given per run in 2.5.

Hell the decreased the light obtained from certain instances last patch. SCOB I think went down in terms of how much light you obtain. Nexus light farming is just mindnumbing. In the new patch 130 weapon will be easily obtained, yet players who are slightly behind have to continue to switch to an inferior weapon just to get the damn light. It is an annoyance to constantly switch. I wanted to punch the wall last night after forgetting to switch my HA spear to my novus for the last boss of snowcloak.

[Bluejay]

Seeing this discussion intimidates the heck out of me considering I just managed to get my i80 bow last week...

One Random Thought: In many MMO's, the developer have either started with at launch or added weapons that were intended to be used as vanity items only (GW2 is mostly based around this, but games like SWTOR and WOW have added them as well).

In some of these games, players will go through very long, sometimes months long, quests just to get a skin for a weapon. I don't see FF14 players think in these terms yet, but it's possible that future weapon releases would be JUST glamour targets and not intended to increase the power level. There are alot of these vanity items in the game already (like the parka recipes in leatherworking and the Emporer's gear in alchemy).

[karaageteba]

The expansion isn't coming in a month.