Thread: The 2.5 (Part 1 & 2) speculation thread

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Are we being tested?

I think it's a combination of testing and guarding. Midgardsomr's reaction to our light shining is to say that he remembers and that he consents. I believe a message was sent asking him to spare us. The "I remember" part could explain his decision not to kill us, but to what do we owe his decision to follow us? I suspect a bargain was struck transferring guard duties to Mid. Especially with the line about "The covenant binds me to thee."

Then we have some of his other comments. . ."Fight and struggle, if it be thy will." "Art thou a pawn, or master of thy fate? What hast thou wrought by thine own hands, mortal?" I think he's trying to get us to move past the role we've been taking, on to something greater.

More troubling, though, are his comments in the last quest:

"Life for death. A fair exchange. Other bargains will be struck." So, who paid the price to spare us?

It's interesting that all these powerful beings have covenants/ devine contract with each other. Makes me think that Ishagrdians broke the covenant they had with dravania; whatever that may be.

Although I kinda have a feeling that maybe dragons and zodiark predates Hydealine or are related somehow. After doing some research Sabik (the core/heart of Ultima) is a star in the Ophiuchus constellation and Ophiuchus is another name for Zodiark. Ultima also looks like a dragon.

Originally Posted by Magis

He is talking about Moenbryda. Her life was exchanged for Nabriales death. I don't recall our lives needing to be "spared" at this point in time. I think he is just foreshadowing that there will be sacrifices made.

I do love that line though.

Oh, that's definitely the main thing he's talking about. But something kept him from killing us, and if that's what he considers a fair exchange. . .

And I guess characters in spoiler tags only count against the 1k limit, not against the 10 required. >_>

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

If this is the case, and it's also the case that we as Hydaelyn's champions safeguard the aetherial powers of Eorzea (which once converged at Silvertear Falls), Midgardsormr is obligated by his original covenant to protect us. It's just the part about removing the blessing of light that I find confusing. You may be right about Midge taking off the training wheels, so to speak.

Hmm. . .with Mid's actions at Silvertear 15 years ago, the primals were unleashed into the land. Most of our Crystals of Light came from those selfsame primals. You might very well be right about it being his original covenant that had him strip away the power of the Crystals. But, then, if he's stripped away the aether of the Crystals, it would seem there'd be nothing left that we currently have to interest him. Though, he could also be playing the waiting game. Or, heck, it could be aspects of all of the above.

I find it interesting that he stripped us of the Echo, our blessing from Hydaelyn, only to then state that he's going to then start drinking of her power to build himself a new body, but is then stuck to us due to a covenant we're totally out of the loop on.

Originally Posted by WyrahFhurrst

I find it interesting that he stripped us of the Echo, our blessing from Hydaelyn, only to then state that he's going to then start drinking of her power to build himself a new body, but is then stuck to us due to a covenant we're totally out of the loop on.

He doesn't strip us of the Echo, though. Otherwise we'd be unable to understand the Ascians.