Thread: The 2.5 (Part 1 & 2) speculation thread

This has likely already been noted, but, I figure I'd drop my two cents on the off chance it hasn't.

Major final coil spoilers below.

So, in the final coil, we learned this interesting little tidbit of knowledge. We also know full well the Ascians seek to push tribes to summon their primals. Lastly, I believe we can safely make the distinction between the Meracydians and the Dravanians. Or rather, what they once were and what they now are. I'll touch on all this later.

First off, an old post by Ferne stated the following.

Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

"Yoshi-p dropped a few bombs last week revealing that both Midgardsormr and Nidhogg were not primals, but dragon ‘kings.’ However, he also revealed that the dragons are a beast tribe...and that beast tribes have their own gods (primals)... So...

Not a beast tribe, but beast tribes. Not a god, but gods.

Now, Bahamut was one of the Meracydian's first brood. A great and powerful ancestor. Now, the historian Erik in-game has this to say about Midgardsormr.

Originally Posted by Erik

There was the birth of Althyk, god of time among the Twelve, and in turn, His younger sister Nymeia, goddess of fate. And then there was water, and through it the Silvertear Falls came to be at the center of all that was. Here was the source not only of water, but the fount of all magic as well. Now, when water came into being, so too did the great dragon Midgardsormr. Brother Time and Sister Fate, fearing the Falls might fall into the hands of evil, ordered Midgardsormr their protector and warden. Much later, with the arrival of man, would Midgardsormr be worshipped as the guardian deity of Silvertear Falls.

In a sense Midgardsormr might also be considered the first of a brood. Once a Dragon King.

....He perished, though. Yet, it seems he is coming back to life. Much like Bahamut did from the fervent prayers of the Meracydians. Now, take a look at the Ascians motives thus far. They've goaded every beast tribe we know of into summoning their primals multiple times, and provided them with ritualistic items to further the potency of their summonings.

Now, Louisoix's staff, Tupsimati. We now know that it was fashioned to channel incredible amounts of aether, which is how he was able to use it in his ritual to summon forth the essences of the twelve. We also know it is similar in design to the horn from 1.0 that was used to supposedly summon primals. In regards to the Final Coil, Louisoix also turned into the primal Phoenix after using Tupsimati to summon the essence in the twelve, though that in itself isn't directly related to the use of the staff itself as far as we know, and rather the sheer amount of aether in the air and the desperate prayers of those fighting on Carteneau below (as well as Louisoix's own personal wishes.)

What if the Ascians want Tupsimati, that they might gift it to the Dravanians who then would use it to help resurrect the keeper of the lake as their new primal?