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    These are the translated Heavensward Trailer lyrics

    Beneath the gazing stars...
    Vales deep and forest dark...
    Betrayed by loyal hands,
    our wrath stir.
    Bound fast unto our fate...
    One path, one burden great...
    Yet ever do our aching souls point Heavensward!
    And ever rings out our song...

    Dragon part (Dragon / English)
    Dis an sô / Our slumber disturbed
    Rus at hi / My brothers wake
    Sal'jas afarr'a / Vengeance will be ours
    Ma mor nâ, Eorzea! / The saviors must perish!

    I always thought that the early Ishgardians had a deal/ "covenant" with the Dravanian Dragons in some way that was broken by the Ishagardians 1000 years ago. Wasn't it said that Coerthas was originally Dravanian territory?

    Eitherway, the Dravanian Wyrmmking called out and it seems to be a VERY big deal to the point that even Midgardsomnr was (originally) compelled to join in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    I always thought that the early Ishgardians had a deal/ "covenant" with the Dravanian Dragons in some way that was broken by the Ishagardians 1000 years ago.
    The conditions in which Thordan and his followers met their first Wyrm King (Nidhogg) were...less than amiable. Being that this event occurred at the founding of the nation of Ishgard, you can probably imagine that it may have set the tone for Dravanian-Ishgardian relations ...in that it started The Dragonsong War.

    If anything, the opposite of a covenant was forged on this day.

    This same war is also known as "The Thousand Year War" because these events took place 1000 years ago, circa 577 of the Sixth Astral Era. If there was a break in that timeline that we don't know about, by way of any treaty or truce of note, I don't think that title would be in use.

    In other words; No, Ishgard was only founded 1000 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    Wasn't it said that Coerthas was originally Dravanian territory?
    Whether it was confirmed or not, I'm not sure, but it's certainly assumed that this was the case (not all of Coerthas, but the general area in which the city proper resides). It's also possible that this location is not only a "Holy Land" for Ishgardians, as they claim, but for Dravanians as well.
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    Last edited by treuhavik; 03-26-2015 at 03:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post

    I always thought that the early Ishgardians had a deal/ "covenant" with the Dravanian Dragons in some way that was broken by the Ishagardians 1000 years ago. Wasn't it said that Coerthas was originally Dravanian territory?
    The elezen "presence predating that of the other races". While not stated, it is implied the dravanians are originally from Meracydia and settled due to the Allag.
    The Dravanian claim over Coerthas is pretty shakey at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    Well that depends on what happened to Zodiark and the Ascian we miss a lot of informations here, the dragons have been invaded by the Ishgardians and try to take back the Coerthas for 1000 years. At the beginning of the war they were in their right, now it's just a pointless bloodbath.
    We're missing a lot of information on the Dravanians and their motives as well. So far, we've only (partially) heard Ishgard's side of the story, just like we only know Hydaelyn's perspective in the war with darkness.

    My point is that, at this point in time, it's far to early to judge good from evil, right from wrong etc.
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