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    I don't know much about the current state of plot speculations, but isn't the logical next step in the story for the Crystal Braves, or at least the 1st and 3rd battalions, to go rogue and side with Adeledji?

    Seemed to me that was in the cards all along for several reasons. Ilberd and Yuyuhase have clearly been scheming against the others from the start.

    The Crystal Braves don't really have any point to being in the plot if they don't go bad. I'm hoping Alphinaud does too actually. The kid is way too obnoxiously flawless, and with his cynical worldview I could see him turning the Crystal Braves on Ul'Dah in a misguided attempt at fixing their problems by force, which would play right into Adeledji's plans. Then Alphinaud would finally get taken down a few notches once he realizes he's ruined everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takfloyd View Post
    Seemed to me that was in the cards all along for several reasons. Ilberd and Yuyuhase have clearly been scheming against the others from the start.
    To be honest I dont think that non of them are traitors. Doesnt seem they are. We cant suspect just beacuse of situation of the boxes that happened on the start of 2.5
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    by slowing down the trailer you see that there's an explosion and some Crystal braves get knocked out or killed by it, but yshtola uses her barrier to atleast protect yda and others

    Thancred kills what looks like to be a brass blades member and the whole scene looks like its in the chamber of rule area of ul'dah (red carpets)
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    I get the feeling that all the cities' leaders, the Scions and Aymeric are in Ul'dah for some sort of event surrounding Nanamo's decision to dissolve the monarchy and the Syndicate. But before Nanamo can formally announce this, Teledji/ the Syndicate make a strike against her. All the leaders are taken hostage/killed, and the Scions scattered, leaving nowhere in the 3 city-states for the Warrior of Light to find refuge. This forces them to go their allies in the Coerthan Highlands noble houses, which will allow them access to Ishgard proper.

    Whether Aymeric will be part of this, I'm not sure. On the 1 hand, him escaping with you back to Ishgard will allow him to be your 1st point of contact in the expansion, as well as protecting you and legitimizing your presence in-story to those in Ishgard distrusting of outsiders. Him not escaping will keep that theme of starting at the bottom in Ishgard.
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    So, a friend of mine - who will remain nameless unless he chooses otherwise - had an entertaining idea that I thought I'd share;

    The other day on Reddit's FFXIV forums, someone was asking what plot speculations are going to occur to 2.55 and leading up to Heavensward. From what I gathered, people are talking about some betrayal and supposedly Yoshi-P says there is a reason why the Warrior of Light has a defeated look on his face as he approaches Ishgard. People have come up with a possible assassination of the Sultana or that the Scions will be killed off or betrayed. I thought of something much worse.

    You're probably wondering what that has to do with Revenant's Toll? I started thinking about this as an absurd piece of humor, highly unlikely, but then I thought about it more, and am starting to think that it could be a good possibility. In Heavensward, what would be the point of Revenant's Toll? Why, in every patch, is this city being built up more and more, when more than likely players will start abandoning it when the expansion comes out?

    I thought about it a little more and came to the realization that Revenant's Toll is just a big camp. There is no Grand Company and no governing body. This isn't Jeuno from FFXI. This place is growing but we haven't had any storyline involvement recently. There really isn't anything memorable here. Yes you have your token exchanges npcs and the Scion headquarters, but that's it. No other NPCs. No introduction of a governing body. Sure the Scions are here, but the Scions have no interaction with anything outside their Headquarters. It's just like Vesper Bay.

    But wait, there is one group here. The group that is trying to build up this city and make it their second home. The people of Doma. They're rebuilding their lives and it's going well. But, we remember that FFXIV likes to pull things from FFVI. We had Ultros, Magitek Armor, the people of Doma. In Heavensward, we are seeing glimpses of the floating continent and the Waring Triad.

    The Domans are here in Revenant's Toll. What could make the Warrior of Light have a defeated look? What could be seen as a great betrayal (of our expectations)? What would be a good reason to no longer invest in Revenant's Toll by the development team as everyone now migrates to the lands of Ishgard? Just like at the Waking Sands, the developers can change what npcs show up based on the story line. We don't interact with any of the Domans besides the random npc that pop up here and there. There are no important Doman npcs that have quests. If the Domans were removed, no quests would have to be altered.

    Here is what I think is going to happen to the people of Revenant's Toll as we go to Heavensward.
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    Not even the children will be spared.
    All that aside I have yet another thought.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vik Vicious
    Another thought, what if there's no betrayal at all, contrary to the hints we've been picking up. It could be as simple as; Sultana dissolves the syndicate and takes off the crown, Teledji, with his massive wealth, gains control of the city and attempts to execute the Scions and Braves, and maybe Nanamo, for speaking out against his new-bought power/intended use of power or Omega?
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    Last edited by treuhavik; 03-24-2015 at 04:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treuhavik View Post
    So, a friend of mine - who will remain nameless unless he chooses otherwise - had an entertaining idea that I thought I'd share;
    No doubt that's what might happen, while the main Scions might not die, side characters like Hoary Boulder and Coultenet might die like the previous massacre. I'm still surprised they didn't address about one of the survivor, the Ala Mihgan that still resides in the Waking sands and mourning his friend's death still.
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    The rains have ceased, and we have been graced with another beautiful day. But you are not here to see it..

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    @treuhavik

    Wow thats a great theory! Revanant's Toll does look like FF6 Doma. Also, a Garlean base is very close to it. We know that they're growing increasingly desperate due to lack of support from Garlemald, so them doing something this underhanded (with the help of the Syndicate maybe) seems to be in line with how they do things.
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    I'll admit that I totally forgot that Doma was from FFVI, even though I remember that scene. That... would be a use for the aqueduct they just added. XP
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    Oh man, that would be so terrible...but SO GOOD (dramatically).
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    ...Oh dear. And aren't most if not all of the Scions over at Ul'dah? If this were to happen while we were all gone, and then you get the inevitable Echo flashback viewing it after returning...
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