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    Ogulbuk's Avatar
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    Jan 2015
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    Atabey Guabancex
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Both are forms of bullying.

    Edit:
    Cant reply because forum rules and me opting to leveling many jobs instead of rushing one to 50, so reply here:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleD View Post
    I notice a lot of times the new players have this mentality of being the victim and world is against me, and a sense of entitlement for some reason. Its just culture on JP servers that Duty Finder is usually for quick kills.
    I would start by saying that is the point. Why? Because the culture is VERY different. In western MMOs, not just this one, tools like the Dungeon Finder exist to help people find random groups when they don't have the networking to just create a static group. If you want efficiency, you go static/pre-formed. If you want to test your luck, then you gamble to join up with total random strnagers in the DF.

    I could see it working out *IF* the JP community is much more friendly and willing to recruit players using the Party Finder, but western culture is that the Party Finder seems to be used nearly exclusively for open world activities or selling EX/Coil runs.

    I'm sorry about your experience with getting bullied, but I don't know why you would feel voting to Give up after 15 minutes is bullying or terrible.
    It has not been MY experience because I am not high level enough to be doing EX runs or Coils or all that stuff, plus I roll tank and healer. But I been in groups with first time players that would have been devastated had I treated them with those expectations. I had 5 wipes in Haukke Manor the other night, and even got a time running out warning. That is a group of new players that would have had their first run ruined if we just gave up on them.

    15 minutes may sound like a long time to take a single boss, but it can be nothing compared to the extremely long wait times DPS classes are forced to endure in the DF, a separate topic but one that complicates the idea of just killing a party and cheating those guys of 2 hours of their lives, just because of 15 minutes of yours. Only point I may vote for disband, kick or just leave is if some are being rude asses badmouthing everyone.

    The way I see it, it is better to be stubborn in a run until time runs out or we pull through, resulting in 1-3 players becoming much better at the game. The proportional amount of bad players will keep increasing the more they are bullied and treated like garbage.
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    Last edited by Ogulbuk; 01-16-2015 at 01:40 AM.