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    WHM Gear Question

    Hello,

    I recently came back to the game and I've been wondering what would be the ideal setup for my WHM from poetics/fcob gear. I came along with this set and would like some input on it.

    Thanks

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/P6IA
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    There's plenty of previous discussion on WHM stat priority and BiS sets available on these forums.

    Check these threads:

    Stat priority as WHM
    How will you gear your healer in 2.4
    2.4 BiS
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    Healers are in a unique place when it comes to stat builds. Whereas DPS has the distinct notion of "every bit of DPS counts", HPS is actually rather irrelevant. The base potency of healing skills is so high that unless you're vastly undergeared, you'll be healing for enough per spell and chain casting heals is generally the wrong thing to do.

    What this means is that aside from Piety, which I consider to be a Primary Stat, the Secondary Stats literally do not matter. I mean this in the sense that all content is not only completely possible if a healer had 0 Crit, Det, or Spell Speed on their gear, the absence of the stats wouldn't make the encounters much harder, if at all.

    Thus, the best healer build is simply Piety(until you're comfortable) > Whatever you like best. All possible builds, aside from having too little MP, can not only do all of the game's content, but do it well.
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    Last edited by Donjo; 01-15-2015 at 06:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    There's plenty of previous discussion on WHM stat priority and BiS sets available on these forums.

    Check these threads:

    Stat priority as WHM
    How will you gear your healer in 2.4
    2.4 BiS
    Thank you Taika.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    chain casting heals is generally the wrong thing to do.
    What do you mean by this exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    What do you mean by this exactly?
    Say there's a deathsentence coming in 5secs, as a healer the correct way to deal with it is stoneskin/ adlo the tank 0.5-1sec before it lands, and cast a big heal(cureII/lustrate) right after it. How much ur gear's max HPS is means absolutely nothing in this case, and so is 90% of the other healing in this game. Healing is all about awareness/timing/mana/buff/GCD management.
    Btw my suggestion for 2 primary stats for scholar is either accuracy/crit, or crit/piety.
    2 stats for whm, quoted from my static whm is, piety/crit.
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    Crit is not a good stat on a WHM. It is only good on SCH because of the shield proc. For WHM I would say PIE and DET, for SCH, Crit and DET or Crit and ACC.
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    Like dark prange said a WHM can not and should not rely on crit. It is nice when a cure 2 crits and heals the tank for 5k but as most skilled healers will tell you. You cure based on how much damage you expect the party member to take, not cure for 2k and hope for 4k.

    In the event you need a lot of single target healing or you are low on mana you pop divine seal and all of your cures are now cure 2.

    For WHM the priority goes Piety > Det > Spell > Crit

    SCH prioritise Crit simply because their spells take advantage of crits. Adlo/Succor will place a shield that is twice as strong as the amount cured and the higher crit increases the likely hood of this happening.
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    Priority is simply as much Pie as you're comfortable with > Det > Crit > Spellspeed. Compared to spellspeed, crit is nice because it will increase your healing power (as individual cures and even regen ticks can crit), which in best cases leads to better MP conservation (you'll find yourself having to cast less heals than expected or be able to keep up with only cure 1s and regen instead of having to cast cure 2, for example) and it also increases your DPS. Spellspeed doesn't really have any significant advantages.
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    All secondary stats are really based off what you're comfortable with. Given current gear choices, at most the amount of added healing from a full Determination build will be around 50 average healing added onto your Cure 1 / Physick. If this is worth the amount of Piety / Mana you'll lose then by all means go for a full Det build. I personally have started to build my gear around Piety. Basically if it has piety on it, I'm taking it. Any secondary stat that comes with it, be it Det, Crit, or Spell speed is just a bonus at that point, but I don't rely on any of them to help with content.

    Piety has proven itself time and again during progression and learning new fights. As a healer I tend to overcompensate healing for learning a new fight. As such I will go through mana like a knife through butter. However keep in mind this is my playstyle. Other healers will give their opinions based on their own healing styles. So take everything said here with a grain of salt, find what works for you, and go with it. Regardless of what other healers say, or how people may question your gear. As long as your group isn't dieing, I don't see a problem.
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