The Great Betrayal!

[BillyBones]

Oh and i just remembered, didn't the Ascians want to summon Zodiarc back then in 2.1 or so? Their storyline will most likely come to a conclusion during 2.5 and we still haven't seen Zodiarc. Which means it's most likely the mistery trial.

[lololink]

Oh and i just remembered, didn't the Ascians want to summon Zodiarc back then in 2.1 or so? Their storyline will most likely come to a conclusion during 2.5 and we still haven't seen Zodiarc. Which means it's most likely the mistery trial.

No, the ascians are going to be foes for a long time I think, they are possibly linked to the 12 others Eons of Ivalice, that would make a lot of possible fights and stuff, I don't think they would just rush their death for now, they already have enough to do with the meany lalafells in Ul'dah and the dragon war in Ishgard.

[SpookyGhost]

Oh and i just remembered, didn't the Ascians want to summon Zodiarc back then in 2.1 or so? Their storyline will most likely come to a conclusion during 2.5 and we still haven't seen Zodiarc. Which means it's most likely the mistery trial.

We're never fighting Zodiark as he is a giant crystal, like Hydaelyn. He represents chaos/evil, Hyd represents light. Ascians causing chaos weakens Hyd and strengthens Zodiark.

Here's what he looks like if you're curious:

[BillyBones]

We're never fighting Zodiark as he is a giant crystal, like Hydaelyn. He represents chaos/evil, Hyd represents light. Ascians causing chaos weakens Hyd and strengthens Zodiark.

I wouldn't say never. He's a primal and they are trying to ressurect him. It would be weird if they didn't succeed at some point, maybe in 2.5 or 3.X.
Still think it would be a fitting ending for their story arc - a huge dark primal god. That could be the reason why 2.5 was split in two parts. The first concluding the story of ascians and zodiark, second focusing on Ishgard. It's all speculation of course, but I think it's very possible. Why else did they call it "Mystery trial"? Because they didn't want to give any spoilers, obviously.

[Kat_Manx]

We're never fighting Zodiark as he is a giant crystal, like Hydaelyn. He represents chaos/evil, Hyd represents light. Ascians causing chaos weakens Hyd and strengthens Zodiark.

Here's what he looks like if you're curious:

Well maybe he still CAN be summoned. I have a theory that Hydaleyn is a primal too, and we have essentially been "tempered" by her, or whatever it is called. That's why Ifrit couldn't do it to us. If you think about it, we have been gathering crystals, too... from the primals. Maybe to summon Hydaelyn? Or as the cutscenes sorta make it seem, the Ascians will get hold of them now, for their purposes. /tinfoil hat.

[DracotheDragon]

We're never fighting Zodiark as he is a giant crystal, like Hydaelyn. He represents chaos/evil, Hyd represents light. Ascians causing chaos weakens Hyd and strengthens Zodiark.

Here's what he looks like if you're curious:

small thing, that crystal was never stated as hydolyn or as zodiarc, so we cannot say which one of the two it is, also zodiarc's full title is Zodiarc Keeper of the parceps aka keeper of law, the asceans are willing to cause chaos to summon zodiarc, but why would a being of chaos be summoned by chaos, unless he wanted to make it order,

also one thing the game has done is never state which side we are fighting on, we are called the warriors of LIGHT yes, but in some final fantasy games the warriors of DARKNESS are also the good guys, :P SE' loves this grey area also the link name in your file was "darkhydaelyn" so that also points to the uncertainty of this,

i have my own theory that we are causing more destruction under hydolyn and the ascent want to correct all that has been done.

(also do not say we are good because of the characters saying so, the characters saying that are also granted the echo or we are helping there own cause, besides the good batsman of eorzea that word is easily doubted in the long term.)

EDIT

Either Iceheart is lying, or Hydaelyn is pissed at us.

to go along with my theory, which states that hydolyn is actually bad, i image the fact that we have been killing the primal just for them to be resumed taking a lot of aether causes a lot of harm to hydolyn, that or, we are not doing what we are meant to do, the ONLY time she has actively helped us was against ultima a ALLAG weapon capable of CAPTUING the primals, meaning she could of been helping up only to FREE the primal and not due to saving the 5 races, you also have to think with the power she wields why hasn't she got any beast race followers and she insists on tempering the 5 (now 6) races.unless we were lost of the path she wanted us to walk,

though this is all a slight fan theory, but i beleave that hydolyn is actually the dark crystal (pictured above) and the caissons are trying to find a way on purging the world of it, using zodiarc (which could of been the 6 races original primal) aka the one true god of eorzea i point most of this onto elebus and the other asceans they seem to be calm and trying to talk there way and explaining themselves lahabria is more of a extremist compared to the other 13 members so far


also yes i know i was late to this thread it grew FAST o...o

[Dervy]

also one thing the game has done is never state which side we are fighting on, we are called the warriors of LIGHT yes, but in some final fantasy games the warriors of DARKNESS are also the good guys,

FFIII is the perfect example of this. When you enter the World Of Darkness, you encounter the Warriors of Darkness there. They're summoned to bring balance whenever LIGHT overflows the dark. I wonder if the World of Darkness ties into the Main Story line...

So this makes perfect sense.

Also, as someone pointed out, Iceheart/Shiva claims she is answering hydaelyns call. What if she is the bringer of light who is tipping the scales? What if we eventually side with the Dark after we've noticed the corruption within the light and we have to bring balance to this mess?

That'll be an amazing twist.

[lololink]

FFIII is the perfect example of this. When you enter the World Of Darkness, you encounter the Warriors of Darkness there. They're summoned to bring balance whenever LIGHT overflows the dark. I wonder if the World of Darkness ties into the Main Story line...

So this makes perfect sense.

Except that the world of darkness isn't a parallele universe in FFXIV, it's the void. FFXIV isn't a universe with a balance of two worlds.

[Omegakiyohime]

Ishgard part is revealed the reason why no one was able to enter Ishard due to a Shield that prevented only Ishgard citizens to enter but now it is removed.
The Battle on Ishgard's Gate we see in the Heavensward teaser trailer is even shown to be the mysterious trial.

The first bit is a bit speculative. Yes. there was a shield around Ishgard, but we don't know if it was keeping people out since they had to implement physical means as well (gates and soldiers ready to kill). If anything, it was protecting Ishgard from a dravanian horde attack.

The second part is just wrong. Mystery trial is in 2.5 part, Battle of Ishgard is in 2.5 part 2. Also defeats the purpose of calling something a mystery trial , if you then name it on the same info slide.

[Hyunckel]

I got betrayed twice in two weeks so maybe that's a good thing*. Maybe I'll resub for it