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    "lol, what kind of NM is that you can kill solo at the same level?, it's supposed to be a NM, not another mob -.- "



    ....thats not at all what I wanted. Of course I don't expect to be able to solo an NM at around the same rnk. Yall are missing the point of what I'm saying.....

    This doesn't really apply to rnk50 players because they don't have this issue!
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    While I can understand saying that you can make a party for said NMs, I think the OP's point was the fact that without said help (which some people may not have) the drops are moot by the time you can do it yourself. Casual players do exist...and why should they be penalized in terms of acquiring gear simply because they aren't in it for the big groups/linkshells that can help with those kind of things?

    Maybe its just me being cynical, but in all the time I've played XI and XIV, I can't recall many (or any) moments where I had a random stranger drop whatever it is that they were doing to help some random guy kill an NM on a whim for armor that would be relevant to him or her at that time.

    Now, before people throw in the typical "Join an LS, make some friends, pay someone to do it for you, etc." Not everyone will be in that kind of situation. All of you people jumping on his case should seriously think of an intelligent, thought-out response before turning into the the rest of the cliche trolls on these forums. Hell, at least provide some helpful info, point them to a guide, or even a wiki page if you must. It takes a whole 5 seconds as opposed to coming up with a snide remark. To those of you who DID provide some insight: I'm sure he appreciates it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haseios View Post
    While I can understand saying that you can make a party for said NMs, I think the OP's point was the fact that without said help (which some people may not have) the drops are moot by the time you can do it yourself. Casual players do exist...and why should they be penalized in terms of acquiring gear simply because they aren't in it for the big groups/linkshells that can help with those kind of things?

    Maybe its just me being cynical, but in all the time I've played XI and XIV, I can't recall many (or any) moments where I had a random stranger drop whatever it is that they were doing to help some random guy kill an NM on a whim for armor that would be relevant to him or her at that time.

    Now, before people throw in the typical "Join an LS, make some friends, pay someone to do it for you, etc." Not everyone will be in that kind of situation. All of you people jumping on his case should seriously think of an intelligent, thought-out response before turning into the the rest of the cliche trolls on these forums. Hell, at least provide some helpful info, point them to a guide, or even a wiki page if you must. It takes a whole 5 seconds as opposed to coming up with a snide remark. To those of you who DID provide some insight: I'm sure he appreciates it.
    yup....there isn't any valid reason why a rnk 42 NM is dropping rnk 30 gear. It should be a rnk 30ish NM where a party at similar level can take it on. Finding a party with members rnk 37+ is ridiculous for such gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dialegilus View Post
    yup....there isn't any valid reason why a rnk 42 NM is dropping rnk 30 gear. It should be a rnk 30ish NM where a small party at similar level can take it on. Finding a party with members rnk 37+ is ridiculous.
    You can take it down with a small party at r30. You haven't tried, yet you claim it as fact. People can take down Toto-Rak bosses at R25, and those stuff are harder than low lvl NM outside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariyaShidou View Post
    You can take it down with a small party at r30. You haven't tried, yet you claim it as fact. People can take down Toto-Rak bosses at R25, and those stuff are harder than low lvl NM outside.
    ...... I don't believe a party of r25 can take on a rnk 42 NM unless they've already reached level 50. And I never claimed it as fact. It have found plenty of research to back up what I've claimed. And a rank 42 NM is not low level
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dialegilus View Post
    ...... I don't believe a party of r25 can take on a rnk 42 NM unless they've already reached level 50. And I never claimed it as fact. It have found plenty of research to back up what I've claimed. And a rank 42 NM is not low level
    It is low level, all the high level NM are 60 or 65+

    Antares in Toto-Rak
    http://ffxiv.yg.com/npc/antares?id=3201108

    Shaula in Toto-Rak
    http://ffxiv.yg.com/npc/shaula?id=3201110

    And they have multiple adds come in 2-3 waves, they have a time restriction, and you can only have 4 people max to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dialegilus View Post
    yup....there isn't any valid reason why a rnk 42 NM is dropping rnk 30 gear. It should be a rnk 30ish NM where a party at similar level can take it on.
    You can kill a rank 42 NM with a party of rank 30 players easy. +12 dlvl is nothing a light party can't handle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dialegilus View Post
    yup....there isn't any valid reason why a rnk 42 NM is dropping rnk 30 gear. It should be a rnk 30ish NM where a party at similar level can take it on. Finding a party with members rnk 37+ is ridiculous for such gear.
    There is a reason:

    The gear simply isn't rank 42, it's rank 30. Very simple really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    There is a reason:

    The gear simply isn't rank 42, it's rank 30. Very simple really.
    We know you want the game to be easy as hell, but that's not a fun game. People want to play fun games. There was tonnes of people considering quitting if the dungeons were as easy as the content they added before that.

    A rank 42 mob is nothing to a rank 30, you can solo a normal rank 42 mob at rank 30, NMs are obviously going to be stronger than other mobs of their rank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dialegilus View Post
    yup....there isn't any valid reason why a rnk 42 NM is dropping rnk 30 gear. It should be a rnk 30ish NM where a party at similar level can take it on. Finding a party with members rnk 37+ is ridiculous for such gear.
    Even the 42+ NM i done it with me and my GF no one else. The boar was one of the hardest we fought took us. About a 15-30min fight and got the loads of axe and 1 belt. The level does not really matter people ask for something hard but rewarding and does not take 1-24hours of camping this is what we got.


    Ontopic:
    Note to everyone: Please stop complaining about this issue the best thing that happen in FFXIV was the NM. There short,Rewarding and challenging.

    The NM that drop the 30 gear are for Med range players to party up 2+ members there some you can even solo without issue.

    Please start a topic about something that would help ffxiv not something that in ffxiv and working how it should be.

    This is the reason forums are bad idea when you have lot's of people saying it should be this way. The dev read it and may change something that was working fine how it should be -.-
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