Please Change Turn 2

[FranSeara]

People got smart and figured out a way to beat T2 easily . The Devs know about this and didnt care..why "The players used their minds, got better gear and learned to play their classes better and took challage way" Nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with the enrage method. If you dont like it, make a PF and enjoy your rot. Enrage is almost standard now in DF.

[Noahlimits]

People got smart and figured out a way to beat T2 easily . The Devs know about this and didnt care..why "The players used their minds, got better gear and learned to play their classes better and took challage way" Nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with the enrage method. If you dont like it, make a PF and enjoy your rot. Enrage is almost standard now in DF.

Having everyone stack behind the boss while the healers spam AOE cure is not "learning to play their classes better". That's a joke.

[FranSeara]

Having everyone stack behind the boss while the healers spam AOE cure is not "learning to play their classes better". That's a joke.

Dont be mad other players used their minds and Beat the fight a easier way. This is the biggest problem with a set part of the player base of this game. Some players never try anything new or differant.

[juniglee]

Dont be mad other players used their minds and Beat the fight a easier way. This is the biggest problem with a set part of the player base of this game. Some players never try anything new or differant.

Just like how Rot is the "new" and "different" method now right? Lots of people out there have not done it the Rot way, and probably will never care to either.

[SarcasmMisser]

Dont be mad other players used their minds and Beat the fight a easier way. This is the biggest problem with a set part of the player base of this game. Some players never try anything new or differant.

Like the players who never did turn 2 any other way.

[Kuwagami]

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devs themselves acknowledged that they had overseen that way of doing even though they wouldn't correct it. Be sure that if there ever is a BCoB savage mode, enrage will juste wipe you out with some 30k+ damage and all that will be left will be tears.

Also, easier ? Back when the strat was created, it wasn't really easier, just different. In fact, with 2 healers in i70, it was close to impossible if the dps weren't good enough to actually pull out awesome numbers. That's why people started to go 1 tank 3 healers in the first place.

Please learn the facts true before saying it's "easier". The rot was never hard to handle to begin with. What was hard was to handle it if RNGesus granted you a laser on top of it, back when it was nearly a one shot on anything but the tanks. Or handling the haste + fire star for those who had chosen to get rid of the Rot.

also, @ people thinking like OP :
Just do the rot. You don't have to care about laser anyway as it's just easily healed. Do a full rot rotation, then all stack and eat all the lasers. How difficult is that ? It's like 40 seconds of paying attention, then shutting the brain off to just burn the boss down.

[FranSeara]

Facts: Some players may never have beaten this fight without the engrage. Fact: some player (like myslef) never know there was another way to do the fight. Fact; Still to this day I had very few groups Want to do Rot. Fact: The only time I've had 1 player sugguet rot,he was being a troll and a Elitist jerk (we kicked him). Opionion :without enrage, I dont think many players would have cleared T2 using DF. Fact: most DF group will not do rot.

[Kuwagami]

Facts: Some players may never have beaten this fight without the engrage.

True, because noone bothered to do anything else after the start began to spread.

Fact: some player (like myslef) never know there was another way to do the fight.

Your own fault. Which fight is designed to wait for the enrage and ignore mechanics ? You might have at least thought that maybe there was some real mechanics in the fight at a point.

Fact; Still to this day I had very few groups Want to do Rot.

Path of least resistance. "Olol too hard" when it's not. But they don't want to learn and prefer wasting time.

Fact: The only time I've had 1 player sugguet rot,he was being a troll and a Elitist jerk (we kicked him). Opionion :without enrage, I dont think many players would have cleared T2 using DF.

That... was initially the point. You had to become better at the game at each point of the Coil in order to overcome the difficulties and go further. DF would be a breeze if people had taken the time to learn properly. T1 taught communication within the party, T2 taught to avoid AoEs, tank swaps, party communication. T3 was a joke, T4 taught how to properly dps and not just be a slacker. And T5 was a mix of all that (fun fact, you're supposed to swap tanks after every death sentence if not utterly overgeared).

With only people who had learned how to do the things correctly, DF would just be really smooth.

However, enrage helped Coil to gain popularity. Good ? Bad ? Can't say, but it's true that many people got to enjoy the Coil thanks to that. But that's an other topic

Fact: most DF group will not do rot.

see above. Least resistance

[SarcasmMisser]

Facts: Some players may never have beaten this fight without the engrage. Fact: some player (like myslef) never know there was another way to do the fight. Fact; Still to this day I had very few groups Want to do Rot. Fact: The only time I've had 1 player sugguet rot,he was being a troll and a Elitist jerk (we kicked him). Opionion :without enrage, I dont think many players would have cleared T2 using DF. Fact: most DF group will not do rot.

Ok so people who did enrage method are, in your own words:

This is the biggest problem with a set part of the player base of this game. Some players never try anything new or differant.

It worked out pretty well for those people too when SE, doing what they always do, kept it in mind for future raid design and ensured something like that never existed again. Hope they enjoyed SCoB.

[FranSeara]

Ok so people who did enrage method are, in your own words:



It worked out pretty well for those people too when SE, doing what they always do, kept it in mind for future raid design and ensured something like that never existed again. Hope they enjoyed SCoB.

Very good at twisting my words around but thats not " WHO" I was referring to. My statement was really meant for those special *$&#$%# who = "This is the biggest problem with a set part of the player base of this game. Some players never try anything new or differant".
But...Oh well. Have great day.