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  1. #1
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    Jasott's Avatar
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    Hawu'to Rakarrak
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 90

    Crystal Tower raid chain loot needs fixing.

    So this week I've run World of Darkness 14 times. I only need 1 item from the entire raid, the Demon Bracers of Scouting from Angra Mainyu. 11 times the Demon Sash of Striking has dropped. And the Demon Gloves of Healing, Demon Sabatons of Fending and Demon Tassets of Fending have all dropped once.

    Its gotten to the point where all these raids need to drop 2-3 items per boss opposed to the current drop rate of 1 per boss. Or a token system needs to be implemented for clearing the dungeon where everyone gets a token on the clear that guarentees you can buy the item you need from a vendor.

    Anyone else agree?
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  2. #2
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    Synestr's Avatar
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    Synestr Ashbringer
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    2-3 items per boss...dang. Yea, let's do that coz it will help Q times immensely. Just because you haven't gotten 1 item in the runs you have done, does not mean that the whole system needs to be reworked. Let's say that they did allow 2-3 items to drop per boss, and the 1 item still doesn't drop. Need another fix?

    I do not agree.

    Tokens on the other hand, could work if done right, only if done right.

    Just my 2g, but as I stated, I do not agree.
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  3. #3
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Token systems take out the fun of scoring awesome loot. I've stated in other threads i don't like the ideas of people who just want what they want now instead of having to work for me. I really wanted the casting robe and spammed WoD for days trying to get it. After a few days of god knows how many runs it finally dropped but 2 other BLMs in the run. Actually winning the roll after all that was awesome it was just my turn to have some luck. Even when it wasn't dropping or when i lose a roll it's frustrating but it's kinda fun too just playing the raid and getting better at it.
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    Violet Baudelaire
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    Goblin
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    Dark Knight Lv 83
    I've said this in another tread, but with more jobs, comes more possible unique sets. If the 1 item per boss continues late in FF14's life with several new jobs and gearsets, the system will only get worse as the game progresses. There have got to be changes made.
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    Mordex Bladeborne
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    Jenova
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    With RNG there will always be outliers who have bad luck with a drop. My first wod run on ninja I won the scouting bracers. Doesnt mean the system doesn't work. But at the same time I didn't get a single drop from coil since t7 until tues and I'm working on t12. Just bad luck.
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    Last edited by matt8107t; 01-30-2015 at 09:58 PM.

  6. #6
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth View Post
    I've said this in another tread, but with more jobs, comes more possible unique sets. If the 1 item per boss continues late in FF14's life with several new jobs and gearsets, the system will only get worse as the game progresses. There have got to be changes made.
    There are already tons of sets that can be bought with tokens. The people who are throwing are fit are people who want one specific item because it's slightly better than the token gear in that slot and these are the people who should have to work for it if they want a drop so bad. If you need a full set of gear then you won't have to run nearly as much to get a piece you need. Though if you don't want to loot 120ilvl token gear exists already that is perfectly fine. If you want to maximize stats for your class with various gear then be prepared for some work.

    There are plenty of options available even when new classes come for gear including token systems already in place so nobody will have issues. WoD gear isn't a need for people it's a want. For either stats or how it looks.
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  7. #7
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    Akame Asaan
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 50
    Mostly what I read here is that the BIS is not easily had with tokens, so let's put in a system that makes it easy for me to get all the best.

    You have hunts, crafted gear and token gear already. Not to mention the primal drops are decent enough for starting out in coil.

    It's more and more to me that people just need to accept that not everyone will be BiS.
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  8. #8
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie View Post
    Token systems take out the fun of scoring awesome loot.
    'Fun' if you get it after maybe 5 runs. Frustrating when 20-30 times and not seeing the one thing you need (or anything that you could use for an alt Job) dropping at all. World of Darkness was fun the first time, but after maybe three runs, I found it boring (and I stopped running dungeons a month after 2.4 hit, so I need the i120 gear. Especially now that my static is in Final Coil). It's just another Syrcus Tower to me, though with at least one interesting trash mob (Atomos Prime).
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  9. #9
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    Ultear Milkovich
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I'd personally like to just see "Whatever classes your party consist of, a random piece of loot for said classes will drop" Because right now Lootucifer if having a lol-fest with Nin gear and no Nin in the party, Caster stuff when no Caster in the party. 1st boss, Nin, 2nd boss, Nin, 3rd boss, healer, Final boss Nin drops. And pretty much 97.8% of runs are like that.

    I'm not upset because "what I want didn't drop" I'm upset because these runs, pretty much no one's getting anything, because they don't wanna waste their weekly roll on Nin gear.
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    Alvis Yune
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    Adamantoise
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Urtear View Post
    I'd personally like to just see "Whatever classes your party consist of, a random piece of loot for said classes will drop" Because right now Lootucifer if having a lol-fest with Nin gear and no Nin in the party, Caster stuff when no Caster in the party. 1st boss, Nin, 2nd boss, Nin, 3rd boss, healer, Final boss Nin drops. And pretty much 97.8% of runs are like that.
    I'm in agreement with this. More classes is more problems down the line if it continues to be a completely random drop system.
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