The Worlds of Final Fantasy, Conected or not and if so, how?

[Kaiser-Ace]

I'm fairly certin the main theorys of Final fantasy's universe are fairly well known by now, those being the "There's only one Gilgimesh Paradox" and "The Great Multiverse Theory".

Lets start with the 1st.
The "there's only one Gilgimesh Paradox" is the theory that, via the Great Rift, Gilgimesh (and by extention Omega and Seiryu) that apears in multiple final fantasy games are in fact only one being, in other words the one that was 1st debued in the series is the only one there is. These three beings (Along with a few others) are capable of crossing the demensional veils in the worlds via the Great Rift (Gilgimesh being sent there by Exdeath, Omega banished by it's creators, and Seiryu it's self seemingly living there).

Now, the oposing theory, "The Great Multiverse Theory":
Acording to it, all the worlds are compleatly seperate parallel dimensions with no connection and that recurring names such as Cid are simply a person in the alternate dimension with the same name and simmiler traits.
Thus how we have Cid of the Lufain (ff1) who was a Sage/Wisard/Scientist, Cid Highwind (FF7) who is an Airship Pilot, Cid Garlond (Our own FF14) who is an Inventor and Enginear, and Soon to be Cid Aulstain of FF Type-0 who is a FF verion of Adolf Hitler and Cidney from the upcoming FF15 who is the Only Female Cid thus far.

Now, as for me, I say there is no reason both theorys can not co-exist.
My theory is that the void is an outer dimension that seperates all of the worlds of FF where as The Rift is actually a dimensional path way that connects worlds to each other (Think like a bridge between the two) that can only be opened under extreemly rare conditions.

So are there any thoughts or theorys that support any of the three ideas or even thnigs that could disprove any of or all three of them?

(And Plz no flame war over this)

[Chewy2nd]

Well, Lightning and Shantotto are evidence for it, seeing as they crossed from their worlds to Eorzea.

[Davy_M_Jones]

Gilgamesh seems pretty consistently the same across all incarnations, but is often accompanied by his companion Enkidu. Enkidu's form varies from time to time, implying that if this is the same Gilgamesh, he's relatively safe to assume he's going to come out on the other end of it as the same person with roughly the same amount of parts.

However, Enkidu being different in nearly every variation could be an indication of two different things: either Enkidu is a flux entity which suffers distortion during travel, or these are in fact entirely different people called Gilgamesh, which were all cast into the void from parallel worlds, by parallel villains and circumstances.

This stands up to a bit of scrutiny, as well. It's far more likely that an unknown/possibly infinite amount of Gilgamesh dopplegangers would be stumbling upon so many different worlds that we've seen, than it is for one specific Gilgamesh to have survived for so long against potentially abysmal or outright deadly odds across myriad worlds and monsters.

Gilgamesh is also frequently shown to have vastly different collections in each incarnation. In XII, he even had a terrible knock-off of the famed Buster Sword from VII, along with Tidus's Brotherhood.

One of the unusual exemptions to this is that there is a man known only as Gilgamesh in Vana'diel, but he looks nothing like the others, and hasn't been cast from his world. This very well could be one of the few (or possibly many) who did not meet such a fate at the hands of one enemy or another.

[Davy_M_Jones]

Having done some casual reading online, it appears that Type-0's story lays claim to the first chronological appearance of Gilgamesh, with him apparently originating from that world.

Crazy stuff, if they have it as canon.

[Kaiser-Ace]

Snip.

I like where this is going. Since for the most part Endiku seems to be diffrent animals (In FF14 for example, Endiku is a Green Chicken of all things) it's possible he simply names any animal he trains "Endiku" after something (Maybe even an old pet) from his origenal home world. And it's likly that "Gilgimesh" as in the boss is a single entity while on the other hand there could be people, like the one in Vana'diel, that are simply called Gilgimesh but are not actually the same Dimension Hopping guy we all know and love. I'm thinking that merging the two is a good way to cover the holes in both but to be honest, with as litte concret information that there already is, it's hard to find enough limits to make a solid theory.

After all, the Devs have provided only vauge refrences as evidence but have like wise made no effort to discredit the idea like when Yoshida's team just flat out said "Midgaurdsormir is NOT a Primal".

[WellFooled]

I'm confused, why did you start another topic on this when you're already participating in another thread with the exact same topic for discussion? :x

[Davy_M_Jones]

I had the same question, but figured I'd just roll with it.

Best guess is because now it's his thread, instead of anyone else's?

[Kaiser-Ace]

Uh actually, the other topic was slightly diffrent. I'm wanting to look into the theorys them selves no "Who is or isn't what".

I've found no shortage of vauge refrences but I have found nothing that can prove or even challenge the theorys. Was hoping to attract some one with a counter theory.

This isn't about "Are they connected" cause every one agrees they are.... some how. I started this thread to see if we could figure out if/how and why/why not using the colective knowlage of this Lore Forum and any other source of information.

I havn't ruled out the Possibilty that Lore Guru Anonymose might weigh in (As I'm a fan of his lore theorys my self), and have the vain hope that one day if the topic is discused enough that the devs will give us a solid answer.

But any way, I was ORIGENALLY making a diffrent topic than the onw I was involved in with you two. You just kinda followed me here. ... >_> stalkers. Lol jk.

[Torquil]

Since for the most part Endiku seems to be diffrent animals (In FF14 for example, Endiku is a Green Chicken of all things)...

Chicken-Enkidu in XIV is definitely not any other Enkidu. Gilgamesh himself says he lost his friend so started calling the Chicken Enkidu.

[lololink]

Chicken-Enkidu in XIV is definitely not any other Enkidu. Gilgamesh himself says he lost his friend so started calling the Chicken Enkidu.

It's also possible that he named all his pets Enkidu, considering we don't even know in which order he appears in the games ( except that Type-0 is where he comes from ) it's hard to tell which Enkidu he is referring to when he speaks of chicken Enkidu.