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  1. #11
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    Geesus Ravenheart
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    Citation Envoyé par Mindx3 Voir le message
    I know they are lol, and i know the reason why i got owned was because i was to low, but i still think grouping them up is rediculous
    It may not have just been a low rank but may have been the way your allotment points were used or the spells and combos thereof. Also, do you have a second job started? This ALSO can help with you getting "handled" at certain times in PTs, Leves, or solo.

    As for looking for NPCs with gear and such... they already have on your mini map and the full map little "sacks/money bags" indicating where NPCs are. No it doesn't tell you what they sell... that is for you to do and explore.

    Not to come of like a jerk but, you have to do some of the work. This is not a linear type RPG or MMORPG it's not going to guide you through everything to get you from A-B. You can use different websites to gather more info if you have difficulty locating some of the things you are asking about. If the chat seems low, start up a conversation with the other players and YOU be the one who makes the difference.
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  2. #12
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    Élémentaliste Lv 50
    Citation Envoyé par Estellios Voir le message
    The enemies around a camp are usually at that camp's level range, so I'd go looking in the general vicinity of camp Tranquil if those are the current leves you are doing.

    On guildleve difficulty, don't be afraid to go back and do the lower rank leves even if you have higher ranks available. If you can set the older ones at a high difficulty and complete them quickly to get the time bonus they might be more SP than the higher rank ones and a lot less of a headache. Don't forget about all your buffs before you engage, Protect + Shell + Stoneskin + Shock Spikes gives you a good amount of breathing room. If you work on Thaumaturge a little bit you can also pick up Sacrifice which gives you a nice Regen effect.
    Thanks for the tips! I normally always buff up before doing anything, I will work on Thm for sacrafice (did not know this) thank you!
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  3. #13
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    Citation Envoyé par Mindx3 Voir le message
    /10charsss
    You might as well have everything handed to you by the game or have it play itself given some of the changes your suggesting.

    btw PageDown/PageUp zoom in and out on the world map.
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  4. #14
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    Citation Envoyé par mysterytaru Voir le message
    You might as well have everything handed to you by the game or have it play itself given some of the changes your suggesting.

    btw PageDown/PageUp zoom in and out on the world map.
    If i wanted the game to play itself id start a bot up, knowing more information to make decisions on how you play the game is different than having the game play itself. Im guessing your talking about the camp indicator suggestion and the quest tracking. The game already tracks the game for you just not in a clean manner. Good camps for group or solo play becomes common knowledge as you progress through the game, but only as you progress why cant i know this from the start? A little FoV book on the world map would be great! I could imagine opening up my world map and see little books scattered around indicating "Good leveling spot!" as well as areas that arent marked but are just as good.

    Anyways i guess thats just my opinion and im sure they are working on making the game a little bit more user friendly. Thanks for the Map zoom info! (Scrolling using mouse wheel is better :P)
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  5. #15
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    Mariya Shidou
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    Citation Envoyé par mysterytaru Voir le message
    You might as well have everything handed to you by the game or have it play itself given some of the changes your suggesting.

    btw PageDown/PageUp zoom in and out on the world map.
    This.

    I didn't play FFXI until last week and I figured out FFXIV during open beta within a few days. I thought FFXI players were so hardcore and hate on-rail style. Maybe not. Maybe I'm just used to the old MMOs/sand-box ones heck even Runescape has much less direction and on-rail than this.

    That said, a lot of what OP ask for are already in game one form or another. Camp rank will determine the surrounding mobs rank and Regional Levequest will tells you what rank the Camp is. If you can't get Levequest for that Camp, it's obvious it's a No-No to go there and hit on those mobs. There isn't much grinding spot, because the game was intended to let you level through Levequest and Dungeon, grinding camp is just something players come up on their own. They will fix this soon. You don't really need map track, because the journal already track it for you and once you get close you will see the (!) on your mini-map, what else do you need? An auto-walk perhaps?
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  6. #16
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    Citation Envoyé par MariyaShidou Voir le message
    This.

    I didn't play FFXI until last week and I figured out FFXIV during open beta within a few days. I thought FFXI players were so hardcore and hate on-rail style. Maybe not. Maybe I'm just used to the old MMOs/sand-box ones heck even Runescape has much less direction and on-rail than this.

    That said, a lot of what OP ask for are already in game one form or another. Camp rank will determine the surrounding mobs rank and Regional Levequest will tells you what rank the Camp is. If you can't get Levequest for that Camp, it's obvious it's a No-No to go there and hit on those mobs. There isn't much grinding spot, because the game was intended to let you level through Levequest and Dungeon, grinding camp is just something players come up on their own. They will fix this soon. You don't really need map track, because the journal already track it for you and once you get close you will see the (!) on your mini-map, what else do you need? An auto-walk perhaps?
    I played FFXI for 2 years and loved it and i emphesize love as i think its my favorite MMO of all time, but then i found WoW which was in its 1st or 2nd year, it didnt have as much user friendly features as it does now but the user friendly experience was still there as well as hardcore aspects. I got hooked as did millions of other players then the game started getting even more casual and even easier than i hoped for and i quit. Im not looking for "Easy Mode" im looking for "Better Mode" if that makes sense...btw i just found a group of ladybugs 20-25 i could solo for a bit...right next to an area filled with level 50 mobs lol
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  7. #17
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    Geesus Ravenheart
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    Citation Envoyé par Mindx3 Voir le message
    I played FFXI for 2 years and loved it and i emphesize love as i think its my favorite MMO of all time, but then i found WoW which was in its 1st or 2nd year, it didnt have as much user friendly features as it does now but the user friendly experience was still there as well as hardcore aspects. I got hooked as did millions of other players then the game started getting even more casual and even easier than i hoped for and i quit. Im not looking for "Easy Mode" im looking for "Better Mode" if that makes sense...btw i just found a group of ladybugs 20-25 i could solo for a bit...right next to an area filled with level 50 mobs lol
    Cool now it makes sense. It is a rather unfriendly user interface and game at times. It's a bit more "grown-up" I guess one could say. I know I spent about an hour with a brand new player to XIV and to the FF MMO series. Even he mentioned this and he felt swallowed into this abyss of..."WTF do I do in here?!" @.@ I see the point you're making.

    Congrats on your find of the LBGs! You will come across those "camps" and you will also see upper level mobs in really low ranked areas. They just don't aggro. It sort of I think, enitces players to try their luck when they think they can.

    I hope you find that same love for XIV as I know myself and others loved when we played XI as well. It's getting there with SE wanting our input and for the most part, creating a world we are all really growing to enjoy.
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  8. #18
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    Citation Envoyé par Mindx3 Voir le message
    Im not against grouping up at all and i intend to group,as i stated i really enjoy doing it, but there are times that i just want to solo. As for finding a group it may be easier if i had a LS. If the game told me where to go id have more time to level and less time looking for a good camp.
    Are you sure?

    •Solo camps
    I enjoy soloing as much as i like grouping and have been soloing completely so far and intend to do so for most of the leveling process. I was soloing last night on opo's and oil bugs at lvl16-18 near camp tranquil, and was getting 500xp for bugs and 900 for opos with some down time.*I dont know how the rest of the game is but i have a feeling that most leveling is done by grouping on field mobs.*
    It would be nice to have map indicators of good grind camps for your level, as well as camps without indicators for secret camp location purposes.
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  9. #19
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    Citation Envoyé par DeadRiser Voir le message
    Are you sure?
    Kind of had a feeling this would pop up somewhere
    I enjoy soloing as much as i like grouping and have been soloing completely so far and intend to do so for most of the leveling process
    Most of Not all.... or are you trying to say i found a place to solo? It was right next to the camp tranquil...finding places after that may prove to be harder and still requires time i could use to level if i knew where i could go.
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  10. #20
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    Fiofel Zalalafell
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    Hi OP. Welcome aboard! You have a lot of valid concerns regarding interface and new player friendliness.

    The User Interface forum may also appreciate your support for a quest tracker. There's the journal with the map button there that will show the quest-related NPC or location, but hide all other markers, but to me, couldn't that quest objective be incorporated into my regular map? Little touch ups like that here and there. It's not like a player knows where to go without checking the journal map, so ... why not?

    And I think most of the folks here don't know what it's like starting from scratch with physical level 1 with 1.18. Unfortunately, the mages are some of the tougher classes to rank up. Chances are, your physical level is lower than your mage rank, so you don't have too many points to invest into Vitality and the like. Even if you did, as you said, groups of enemies unleashing their weapon skills or spells can take a mage down pretty fast which makes soloing a leve less sexy than advertised).

    Better direction after the entry missions could be desired. And the cities aren't balanced in the sense that players have crammed their retainers in unsafe and unhealthy conditions that is the wards of Ul'dah with overpriced beginner and intermediary gear. Gridania and Limsa Lominsa across the servers appears to be less than populated.

    I lost my train of thought, I post before I forget anymore, har har! But welcome aboard and thanks for the feedback!
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