Duty Withraw penalty affecting the wrong people.

[YoshioKST]

At the moment it is possible for a player to get penalized because he was in party with people who Withdrew from duty. Even if the player in question always confirmed.

[Chihaya]

working as intended - make sure your group is ready when you queue

[YoshioKST]

Unfortunately, I don't quite think that'll do..let's say you join a PF to farm Shiva Ex, or DD speedruns, or anything for the zodiac. Que, get through the place once, no drop, reque, healer withraws, then leaves, get replacement, someone else withdraws, you get a replacement, whatever happens.

All in all, it's entirely possible to just be a member in a group, not even the member withdrawing or the member queing for duty, and end up penalized after Confirming everytime.

[technole]

Unfortunately, I don't quite think that'll do..let's say you join a PF to farm Shiva Ex, or DD speedruns, or anything for the zodiac. Que, get through the place once, no drop, reque, healer withraws, then leaves, get replacement, someone else withdraws, you get a replacement, whatever happens.

All in all, it's entirely possible to just be a member in a group, not even the member withdrawing or the member queing for duty, and end up penalized after Confirming everytime.

Yep, I hate how this works because of someone else's goof. I always use ready check before queuing even in a full party. Just a force of habit and courtesy for everyone, FC or not. But we went in 7/8 and I wasn't the leader and because of the lockout I ended up making a scheduled raid start late.

[Myrhn]

Ready check, please use it.

[YoshioKST]

When I'm on the loading screen between DD runs, of a multiple-run group, at the moment our faster-loading PF leader ques us for the previously agreed on, planned 2nd run?

[RyuDragnier]

When I'm on the loading screen between DD runs, of a multiple-run group, at the moment our faster-loading PF leader ques us for the previously agreed on, planned 2nd run?

It's on him then, get on his case. If he can't wait until everybody loads, it's his fault, PERIOD, because the current system prevents queue spamming/trolling, which is infinitely more annoying than just losing out on 30 minutes in the DF because a party leader was a fool.

[Carstien]

This is a non issue. Farm parties don't go in with less than a full group. You don't get the penalty if you are a full group, exceptions being 24 man content.

So where are you pulling this 'they left my farm, now I'm locked out' garbage from? Certainly not happened to you. Or anybody.

[YoshioKST]

This is a non issue. Farm parties don't go in with less than a full group. You don't get the penalty if you are a full group, exceptions being 24 man content.

So where are you pulling this 'they left my farm, now I'm locked out' garbage from? Certainly not happened to you. Or anybody.

Now that's just insulting. What if the group went in incomplete in a place like Wanderer's, that you'd speedrun anyhow, or just to farm light on a bonus window without having the time to wait for a full group? It wasn't a non-issue for all the members of the group who were ready every time.

[LadyLarunai]

That can be a pain if people crash after the ready check or run off but don't tell anyone, i would prefer they get rid of it affecting the full party and change it to the person that didn't click