Dev silence about SMN

[Akiza]

SE will just let Summoner's go extinct in the expansion like Blizzard did with the Warlock. After the expansion the Summoner population will plummet to 0.3%.

[Alberel]

Honestly just an acknowledgement that SMN has some issues that need to be resolved would be great. If nothing is fixed by 3.0 I expect the majority of the remaining SMN population will switch to Machinist and we'll be left with BLM as the only magic DPS...

[Brianmj]

What's the line that's always bleated, "less than 5% of the population has beat T5". The problems affecting Summoner affect a small portion of the population. The job isn't going extinct, and there won't be a mass exodus for SMN to BLM or Machinist.

[Zenaku]

You guys give me a lot of hope for SMN -.- i for one wont be switching to other job. All SMN need is a way to get full mp just like BLM without it being overpower. So give them Sublimation:Stores MP while reducing HP this way we have a way to get full MP while in battle and allow us to keep our DPS up.

Then fix some of our dots spell maybe lower resurrection cost due to the fact that if you do end up using it. You pretty much going to be useless due to low MP

TBH they can get rid of the pet part and give me contagion and few other spell and i enjoy SMN more "Joke btw" But just show you how useless pets are i not sure what more they can do to make them worth it in ffxiv.

Let's hope SMN get a update on this issue by a dev team before patch 2.5 part 2

[Firepower]

The issue with comparing DRG to SMN is that DRG had AWFUL magic defense so in the final coil it was getting destroyed by magic unavoidable aoe's that no other job in the game was being affected by. Hence the need to buff its Magic Defense, i'm guessing since they was tweaking DRG at that point anyway they decided to balance it's DPS a bit more considering most bosses spin around a lot and DRG was being crippled by missing heavy thrust and impulse drive because of positioning.

SMN's issue is not a survivability or massive DPS drop off, it is just currently weaker than the others because it was the strongest and then all others have now been buffed so its the only unbuffed class (not including BRD which was nerfed for good reason, I accept SMN was nerfed when thunder was removed from cross class) plus they have to be doubly careful about SMN because any changes to Arcanist's skills will directly affect SCH and could then negatively affect WHM. So they are limited in what they can change right now and might not want to tweak the pets due to a potential new EGI coming in the expansion which would need re-tweaking in a few months time.

Finally SMN can complete all content in the game from now up to the expansion (as there is unlikely to be anything more difficult than final coil from now to expansion) and the gear is accessible to the point where it is unlikely to be overlooked by any other job for any content. DRG would still be excluded from final coil today if they didn't buff it due to its harsh mdef penalty it had. Buffs are needed but it is not essential to this period of time and post expansion it could be anyone's guess what the jobs are going to be like.

[Alberel]

What's the line that's always bleated, "less than 5% of the population has beat T5". The problems affecting Summoner affect a small portion of the population. The job isn't going extinct, and there won't be a mass exodus for SMN to BLM or Machinist.

Funny you say that then when DRG was buffed only a month ago for problems exclusive to coil and the SMN population in endgame raiding has already seen a mass exodus. I would ask you not to dismiss people when you're clearly oblivious to the facts.

[Ryu_Hayabusaa]

REAL Smn's are smart. they warp back to town, then switch to Blm. i leave the game, come back and people are STILL crying about smn. make me hate the job even more when all you see is /whine all day about the class. yes we all know the issues, if you have not figured it out by now, SE dont care...

[Akiza]

What's the line that's always bleated, "less than 5% of the population has beat T5". The problems affecting Summoner affect a small portion of the population. The job isn't going extinct, and there won't be a mass exodus for SMN to BLM or Machinist.

The mass exodus from Summoner to Black Mage has already happened at high end game raiding and when Machinist comes out the Summoner population will go extinct. Shame to see SE let of the most iconic job in final fantasy history has been reduced to the worse DPS job in game even a White Mage does more damage then the Summoner when not healing.

[Ronove]

Shame to see SE let of the most iconic job in final fantasy history has been reduced to the worse DPS job in game even a White Mage does more damage then the Summoner when not healing.

Stop being dramatic. I don't think it's THAT bad.

[Dyvid]

The mass exodus from Summoner to Black Mage has already happened at high end game raiding and when Machinist comes out the Summoner population will go extinct. Shame to see SE let of the most iconic job in final fantasy history has been reduced to the worse DPS job in game even a White Mage does more damage then the Summoner when not healing.

I thought Ninja was suppose to be a DoT class making SMN extinct? Whatever happened to that "prediction"?