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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    no one should ever want a cash shop return...
    I'd prefer it to bringing back the event for a fourth time at least.
    The fact that it was available as free for a limited time...multiple times, makes it more acceptable to me.
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    If they bring the Lightning event items to the cash shop, I still really hope they make new weapons for the new jobs. I'd totally be willing to buy those...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkStar View Post
    If they bring the Lightning event items to the cash shop, I still really hope they make new weapons for the new jobs. I'd totally be willing to buy those...
    While I think that after an event has been made free within game it is less insulting (I M O) to add it to the shop, those would actually be new items to the event.. Mayhap they place those new short time updated limited contents in the Golden Saucer? After a set and an announced time frame move those items to the cash shop with the rest of them.

    I know its a bit of work but I feel first making the event within game and then after that doing whatever would be better, respecting the "limited time" event to the world but also letting people who missed out have hope and not go "damn that pumpkin head that is AWESOME, can never be mine.. that is quite upsetting".

    Of course I don't like the idea of the cash shop but if we could keep SE focused on this sort of selling, that'd be great (imo). I dislike most the idea of exclusive content being available outside of expansion and game update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    I'd prefer it to bringing back the event for a fourth time at least.
    The fact that it was available as free for a limited time...multiple times, makes it more acceptable to me.
    If they have no intentions of running the event again just add it into the stylists hair list, it's been exclusive long enough and add the cloths/weapons to the novelty clothing vendor for a nominal fee.

    I just can't understand how people line up and say "Well I guess I'd be ok if they charged me for this!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasathar View Post
    @ OP: This event has happened twice already, I wouldn't be surprised if they do it again.
    It happened 3 times, not twice. JP launch, NA launch then that special case the last time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
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    I'd definitely prefer an idea like this, perhaps even use it in the future for things like adding in more crossover outfits? Just explain it as being the latest design from some eccentric crafter (like Godbert, but for weaving, or armorsmithing) who's inspired by dreams they have of alternate worlds, or stories from other cultures. I for one would love to run my Catgirl around in an outfit similar to Lightning's "Knight of Etro" armor, and I'm sure countless fans would love to roam around dressed like Cloud. Just as long as they at least have it available SOMEWHERE in-game for a short period, like even a couple of weeks, before dropping it in the cash shop, so people who wanted it have a chance to get it (nominally) free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    If they have no intentions of running the event again just add it into the stylists hair list, it's been exclusive long enough and add the cloths/weapons to the novelty clothing vendor for a nominal fee.

    I just can't understand how people line up and say "Well I guess I'd be ok if they charged me for this!"
    Don't get me wrong. If I had it my way, we would never have a cash shop at all. I find the practice to be just plain greedy overall. I just think that if they must, they can at least do if for event stuff people missed and would otherwise never be able to get.
    Not that I would ever buy them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Don't get me wrong. If I had it my way, we would never have a cash shop at all. I find the practice to be just plain greedy overall. I just think that if they must, they can at least do if for event stuff people missed and would otherwise never be able to get.
    Not that I would ever buy them.
    This is exactly my opinion on it. I would PREFER for these things to be free, or be purchasable with gil, but I also wouldn't mind it being on the cash shop if the price is reasonable. I do want these items, but if it costs me real money, the price could convince me to just not care anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zysets View Post
    ... but I also wouldn't mind it being on the cash shop if the price is reasonable.
    One of the main objections to a cash shop is that all prices there will be inherently unreasonable. It's a major part of the way such cash shops work.

    Using the Lightning Strikes rewards as an example, when the event was active, it was possible to do the entire thing within a day. With subscriptions running between $10 and $15 per month, that means that it only cost the original players between 33 and 50 cents (actually less than that, because we could do other things that day as well), and for that, we got not only the rewards but the event itself. Giving just a small portion of that event (the rewards alone, without the activity) and giving it much later long after the charm of being new has worn off, would inherently be worth quite a bit less. If they charge anything above about ten or twenty cents for the entire package (hairstyle, full outfit, and all eight weapons), then it's grossly overpriced.

    But cash shops aren't cost effective at reasonable prices. SE wouldn't want to have to process a special payment if they're only going to get ten cents for it. We're more likely to see a couple dollars or more per item than ten cents for the whole package. Developers put items into cash shops so that they can charge major-feature prices on trivial individual items. On F2P games, this makes sense, because those individual items have to in turn fund all the major features that are part of the base game. But here we're already paying for the major features with game purchase and subscription fees. We shouldn't have to fund them again with overpriced cash shop items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    SE wouldn't want to have to process a special payment if they're only going to get ten cents for it.
    Oh yeah, I'm well aware of that. By reasonable, I was thinking of no more than a few dollars. Besides XIV, which I only started playing recently, and Phantasy Star Universe back in the day, I really didn't play many pay to play games, so I'm definitely aware on how a cash shop really works.

    I'd be willing to pay 3-5 dollars for the set, just costs me the chance to miss out on a good burger or something that week, I get the items I paid for, and SE gets it's share of profit.

    If anything, a 3-5 dollar price tag would be pretty cheap compared to what some other games out there charge for cosmetic items.

    Like I already said, I would still prefer a way to get them with in game currency or through another event, but I'm all good for a cash shop alternative.
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